[0.11.2] Lightning Arrow Duelist - 1.0.0 updated!

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Hypnoticc wrote:

are you also in nemesis or on standard

Nemesis.

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Jotabe wrote:

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Edzilla wrote:

Not a bad looking tree. But if you are really serious about going mana based - I would do something like this:

108 points

Picking up 25% reducd mana cost of skills + 60% mana regen in place of your marauder tankiness passives. Mana-based LA is nearly impossible to pull off - if you want to go this route, along with the passives I believe mana-leech would be require too. It's mainly because you are stacking attack speed, with a high attack speed bow - so you are unable to leech mana fast enough to keep up with your attacks. Shadows (or crit builds) pull it off better, since you can pick-up a 2% mana leech node, up near the shadow tree. But, those builds are CI and CI isn't really viable with duelist anymore.

Actually the build I've linked was to be used with BM Gem on late game.
Are you saying Mana reduction does have an impact anymore when you're using BM?
In this case what would you recommend?

Also, would you have a build using Heart of Oak mixed with what I'm looking at?

Oh.. if it's going to be BM gem, then why take Mana Flows? That's a waste of 3 points. I assumed you were going mana, with those points taken. My mistake.

Yeah, try this: 108 points

NIce thanks :)
Any recommandation regarding the timing to go on each keystone?

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Jotabe wrote:

NIce thanks :)
Any recommandation regarding the timing to go on each keystone?

Goto IR first - then just follow my 50 point build, in the OP (grabbing RT and BM next after life nodes.)

Full update to the items/gems and added a Voltaxic Rift build. Have any questions, suggestions, or concerns please let me know :)

lvl 61 with this build now in nemesis with near cap resist and 3.4k hp, haven't got static blows yet but still got 1.1k dps tooltip with LA+Lmp+weapon ele+ life on hit. I did LA in onslaught glad to see u continued the guide nice. I level'd with poison arrow + fork and clarity gem until i got BM node to switch to LA.

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Hypnoticc wrote:

lvl 61 with this build now in nemesis with near cap resist and 3.4k hp, haven't got static blows yet but still got 1.1k dps tooltip with LA+Lmp+weapon ele+ life on hit. I did LA in onslaught glad to see u continued the guide nice. I level'd with poison arrow + fork and clarity gem until i got BM node to switch to LA.

Cool, happy to see its working out for ya. Static blows will easily double your DPS if you have enough attack speed (not tooltip, granted, but actual DPS.)

Fork poison arrow? Interesting...

Lightning Arrow builds are actually not as popular as they used to be, but, i believe people will start seeing them more and more - for a couple of reasons:

1) Nerfed to Dual Spork, means less shock stacking. Thus, having a good LA user in your party is much more of a demand then it used to be.

2) Path of Spectral-throw/melee builds. With so many melee / spectral throw builds going around, groups need some diversity.

I'm using this one at level 82:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQAAecCcQSzFCAUTRUgFx0ZLhm0GjgdFCU_J-0ppSpNLOkxnjIJMn4yiTWSNug6UjrhPydGaUp9SshN404qUEdVxlb6Vw1X4livWfNaGluvX6pjp2aeZ6BnvWoebEZuqnJsc-F35XgNhymHdojxjX6PRpAKkFWbLZuhns2fy6IAplenMKeEqBipbqxZrKq0GrXytkG3tr6nwBrK082Yz2XQ0NIh2WHajd0N3UbexuLL52PqYuw47m_wH_Iv8kX3iPqx-tL8TvzF_go=

I use a 6L Lioneye's Glare for lightning arrow and a 5L chest for frenzy. I use BM gems with both. With Wrath and Anger the tooltip for frenzy says 8.5 k dps (12.4 k with 4 frenzy charges active) and LA tooltip says 2.6 k dps ( ~ 3k with 4 frenzy charges). With this I do library/archives in under 3 mins and beat piety in under 15 seconds. I see a lot of places for improvement in my build still and would appreciate all feedback.

Thanks for sharing your builds.

I was lucky and found a Voltaxic Rift. Currently I'm working on my own LA build around this unique.

One thing I don't understand in your Voltaxic Rift build is why you're wasting so many points by heading up into the Templar area.

I would stop right at the Scion life circle and instead grab Arcing Blows and Mental Accuracy form the Shadow then take the two "Bow Attack Speed and Crit Chance" nodes from the Ranger. The remaining points go into life.

You would gain 6% IAS, 60% crit chance, 16 flat mana, 30% life
You would loose 4 flat life, 1% life regen, 10% WED (at least for lightning)

If the life regen is too important, drop 3x8% life nodes and grab the Scion's Shaper node instead in which case

you would gain 6% IAS, 60% crit chance, 16 flat mana, 6% life, 40% mana regen
you would loose 4 flat life, 10% WED (at least for lightning)

The third option would be to go for the Heartseeker cluster to get crit multi.

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fae76 wrote:

Thanks for sharing your builds.

I was lucky and found a Voltaxic Rift. Currently I'm working on my own LA build around this unique.

One thing I don't understand in your Voltaxic Rift build is why you're wasting so many points by heading up into the Templar area.

I would stop right at the Scion life circle and instead grab Arcing Blows and Mental Accuracy form the Shadow then take the two "Bow Attack Speed and Crit Chance" nodes from the Ranger. The remaining points go into life.

You would gain 6% IAS, 60% crit chance, 16 flat mana, 30% life
You would loose 4 flat life, 1% life regen, 10% WED (at least for lightning)

If the life regen is too important, drop 3x8% life nodes and grab the Scion's Shaper node instead in which case

you would gain 6% IAS, 60% crit chance, 16 flat mana, 6% life, 40% mana regen
you would loose 4 flat life, 10% WED (at least for lightning)

The third option would be to go for the Heartseeker cluster to get crit multi.

You mean, something like this?

I originally did take something similar, but I just assumed you got more life and damage (40% WED is pretty insane...) from the templar tree. I guess I just did not realize it took 6 points just to get to that part of the tree - that is a big waste of points, you are right.

The life regen is kind of important for leveling - but it is not that big of a deal at the end-game, since we will rack up a crazy amount of life with a 20% Lgoh with LMP+Chain.

I was also a little reluctant about going too far into ranger because a lot of there passives are "Physical Damage with Bows" and such - which does not add that much damage to the V-rift, considering it is 75% lightning damage. WED really scales better with it (another reason I figured templar was a better choice.. i mean, comeon.. 40% WED!!)

But, the build I just listed above does seem like it is a bit better. I'll have to look at the numbers on it and see to make sure.

Thanks for the suggestion :)