[0.11.2] Lightning Arrow Duelist - 1.0.0 updated!

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ApeSkunk wrote:
I have a some questions.
Can i use elemental hit instead of frenzy for single target dmg?
and can someone explain to me why chain is good on la.


Yes, you can use EH instead of Frenzy - just most choose to use frenzy, because it makes your LA stronger while the stacks are up.

The reason that Chain is good with lightning arrow is because after you get static blows you can start to have a chance to "shock" targets. If a target is shocked, then you deal more damage to it - shock stacks up to 3 times. That being said, having more chances to hit your target, gives you a higher chance to shock them, and stack those shocks.. and so on. With Lesser multiple projectiles+chain you are producing 9 projectiles (if they all chain). Stack that with attack speed and you are shocking a lot of targets, at a fast rate.
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I have a bit of a weird question here,

I'm running a DW duelist as of now, and find that with my lag problems, I should probably try to be ranged (I suffer from random monsters teleporting away of melee range)

So I wanted to try a bow build, thing is, I'm not sure if my tree can be salvaged for it.

Currently I'm at:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQAAdwB5wOHEdUUcRcdFz4brRv6Jd8yCTSTNug4lkGqR35KfUrITipT31eXWK9Y21uvYEFjcGVNZ6BsRm6qcHJybHgNeOt9dYTZhO-HdpVmmSubLZuDpBmnMKluq8W18rZBtxe9gb6KvqfAD9JN037cgt0N37_nCu967-P3vvzF


Which I know is far from optimal, level 52 at the moment.

I have 4 respec points, and an exalted orb that I want to trade for regret orbs (I was told I could get 18 or so) , so I should have around 20-22 respec points.

Can my tree be salvaged with that many respec points into a bow build? and would you advice to take Iron grip if so?

Sorry for the long post, and thank you in advance.
So the auras u posted Grace / Wrath / Determination / Anger / Haste.

are they in order? I have a 6 link and am going to spec out of the keystone. with reduced mana is it possible to run only 2 of the above auras, or three?

Edit: also why is resolute technique dropped?
Last edited by Hypnoticc#6943 on Nov 2, 2013, 4:44:12 PM
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X70A wrote:

I have 4 respec points, and an exalted orb that I want to trade for regret orbs (I was told I could get 18 or so) , so I should have around 20-22 respec points.

Can my tree be salvaged with that many respec points into a bow build? and would you advice to take Iron grip if so?

Sorry for the long post, and thank you in advance.


Without looking at your tree there is one important thing to consider. Your bow gems will be under leveled a lot. A big part of the damage is coming form their level. You will probably have to go a couple of zones back to level them before you can even think to progress. This is going to take time. Maybe you have a friend that can level these gems for you in his alt weapon slots.... If not, level 52 is not so far into the game and you have to ask yourself if the respec is worth your Exalt. Maybe its better to retire your toon until the next big skill tree update where you get a free full respec and make a new one in the meantime.
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Edzilla wrote:

A Perandus Signet + Wurm's Molt + Atziri's Foible along with Primal Spirit will solves all your mana issues while leveling... if you can afford them :) Not really an option for me, being in the nemesis league and dead-broke! but... it works until you can get your BM gem setup, or want to run a leveled Clarity with more mana-regen passives. Perhaps get Mana Geyser? Between ranger and shadow?


Of these I only own Wurm's Molt which is already in use but not a big help since most of my damage is elemental. I'm leveling with RoA and so far this works fine despite using Wrath (currently in a3 normal).

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Edzilla wrote:

Trees look good, im just curious why you go to troll's blood? Do you need the resists? Spend the same amount of points to get to sentinel for resists+mitigation and be next to a much larger life cluster then connected to troll's blood - and pick up 60% mana regen on the way, if need be. 101 points. You lose the frenzy charge in your main build, but have access to a boat-load of more HP nodes, more mana regen, and more WED if you want.


This is exactly the part I struggled the most. The reason why I finally went down is the Frenzy charge (I really wanted to get them all and I believe that 2% additional dodge chance is better than 24% inc evasion since scaling EV after 50% becomes very hard and inefficient). I also wanted more life regen and resists. I agree though that your suggested route provides more options. I will probably have to follow it at least temporary for the mana regen. Either this or get Mana Geyser which would give me another 30 INT to level Enfeeble and Wrath. I will have to see what my build needs the most...

Thank you a lot for your feedback! I really appreciate it :-)
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X70A wrote:
I have a bit of a weird question here,

I'm running a DW duelist as of now, and find that with my lag problems, I should probably try to be ranged (I suffer from random monsters teleporting away of melee range)

So I wanted to try a bow build, thing is, I'm not sure if my tree can be salvaged for it.

Currently I'm at:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQAAdwB5wOHEdUUcRcdFz4brRv6Jd8yCTSTNug4lkGqR35KfUrITipT31eXWK9Y21uvYEFjcGVNZ6BsRm6qcHJybHgNeOt9dYTZhO-HdpVmmSubLZuDpBmnMKluq8W18rZBtxe9gb6KvqfAD9JN037cgt0N37_nCu967-P3vvzF


Which I know is far from optimal, level 52 at the moment.

I have 4 respec points, and an exalted orb that I want to trade for regret orbs (I was told I could get 18 or so) , so I should have around 20-22 respec points.

Can my tree be salvaged with that many respec points into a bow build? and would you advice to take Iron grip if so?

Sorry for the long post, and thank you in advance.


I think I counted correctly and this tree will cost you 22 (give or take) and will get you in the right direction of where you want to go. A few minor changes will give you more over-all points, but that can be done later.

Also, before you do any big changes... are your lag problems net related, or graphical? I only ask because LA does seems to give a little bit of graphical lag, on older PCs or pcs that already have a little trouble running the game. They have improved it a lot, but it still hiccups a bit on lower-end rigs. If it's just internet / latency lag, ignore this - but if it's graphical, you might want to try split-arrow instead. Still a very powerful and fun ranged build.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
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Hypnoticc wrote:
So the auras u posted Grace / Wrath / Determination / Anger / Haste.

are they in order? I have a 6 link and am going to spec out of the keystone. with reduced mana is it possible to run only 2 of the above auras, or three?

Edit: also why is resolute technique dropped?


Auras in order of importance would be Wrath / Anger / Grace(Haste for more DPS) / Determination.

You can run 3 auras if you use alpha's howl and mana reserve reduced passives, otherwise you will only be able to run 2.

RT was dropped in the "Lioneye's Glare," build because.. you use Lioneye's glare :P Which makes all of your attacks not miss, so RT is not needed.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Last edited by Edzilla#0339 on Nov 3, 2013, 8:54:48 AM
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fae76 wrote:
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X70A wrote:

I have 4 respec points, and an exalted orb that I want to trade for regret orbs (I was told I could get 18 or so) , so I should have around 20-22 respec points.

Can my tree be salvaged with that many respec points into a bow build? and would you advice to take Iron grip if so?

Sorry for the long post, and thank you in advance.


Without looking at your tree there is one important thing to consider. Your bow gems will be under leveled a lot. A big part of the damage is coming form their level. You will probably have to go a couple of zones back to level them before you can even think to progress. This is going to take time. Maybe you have a friend that can level these gems for you in his alt weapon slots.... If not, level 52 is not so far into the game and you have to ask yourself if the respec is worth your Exalt. Maybe its better to retire your toon until the next big skill tree update where you get a free full respec and make a new one in the meantime.


I agree with the leveling of the gems part - that is the most important thing.

If you do plan on using LA, start leveling LA+LMP+Chain+LgoH+WED right now!! With a low level LMP, chain, and LA you will do really bad DPS.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Last edited by Edzilla#0339 on Nov 3, 2013, 8:56:55 AM
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fae76 wrote:
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Edzilla wrote:

A Perandus Signet + Wurm's Molt + Atziri's Foible along with Primal Spirit will solves all your mana issues while leveling... if you can afford them :) Not really an option for me, being in the nemesis league and dead-broke! but... it works until you can get your BM gem setup, or want to run a leveled Clarity with more mana-regen passives. Perhaps get Mana Geyser? Between ranger and shadow?


Of these I only own Wurm's Molt which is already in use but not a big help since most of my damage is elemental. I'm leveling with RoA and so far this works fine despite using Wrath (currently in a3 normal).

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Edzilla wrote:

Trees look good, im just curious why you go to troll's blood? Do you need the resists? Spend the same amount of points to get to sentinel for resists+mitigation and be next to a much larger life cluster then connected to troll's blood - and pick up 60% mana regen on the way, if need be. 101 points. You lose the frenzy charge in your main build, but have access to a boat-load of more HP nodes, more mana regen, and more WED if you want.


This is exactly the part I struggled the most. The reason why I finally went down is the Frenzy charge (I really wanted to get them all and I believe that 2% additional dodge chance is better than 24% inc evasion since scaling EV after 50% becomes very hard and inefficient). I also wanted more life regen and resists. I agree though that your suggested route provides more options. I will probably have to follow it at least temporary for the mana regen. Either this or get Mana Geyser which would give me another 30 INT to level Enfeeble and Wrath. I will have to see what my build needs the most...

Thank you a lot for your feedback! I really appreciate it :-)


I'm not a big fan of the frenzy charge boots - but, that's just me :)

Glad I could help bro. GL and stay safe!
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Last edited by Edzilla#0339 on Nov 3, 2013, 8:59:15 AM
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Edzilla wrote:


I'm not a big fan of the frenzy charge boots - but, that's just me :)

Glad I could help bro. GL and stay safe!


:-) Frenzy Boots is the right hint!!! You just showed me another approach to my mana problem :-) I never used Darkray Vectors before but I also have Blood Dance and love them. If I follow my build as posted Blood Dance gives me 7% life regen. Together with regen from my tree this totals 9.5%. I should be able to drop my mana pots for life pots and use BM gems without LifeLeech or LoH gems while leveling. Just for safty I will also start leveling Vitality. 10%+ life regen should provide more than 3x the "ressources" all the mana regen nodes close to my tree combined ever could. I will definitively try this first.

Thanks for your awesome hint :-D

GL and have fun!
Last edited by fae76#3960 on Nov 3, 2013, 10:13:49 AM

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