Zombie´s suck since latest Patch - 135% resists... Endgame Summoner screwed. Help us Pls

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LeninGHOLA wrote:

Nope, zombies are still pretty good. If you have an MI build, you better have taken care of your mana regen and cast speed mods by the time you hit level 50 or so.

building around MI is the only real way zombies are "still pretty good" now.

personally I have 250+ manaregen so I can spam resummon them if I want, but it still doesnt change the fact that I could be doing other things...and that they are far worse of a meatshield now because when they die mobs get aggroed at you.

again, I think that during the 'bugged' phase they were too tanky. But now they die too often to sneezes.

250 mana regen is impressive. Mind sharing the build?

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LeninGHOLA wrote:

250 mana regen is impressive. Mind sharing the build?

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMAAnEEswdjCPQMfRB_E1sUTRSwGYUaOBpsHNwdFCQ8JKonCyepJ-0o-iqYMYg26TlSOjA62DvhRARGcUlRTblN2E5tVcZV1lcrWAdZ81ptWpFk52aeZ71r220ZcU1zU3kDfRh_xoFvgh6Cx4VgiECLeox2j0aQVZMnlSCYrZrPm6GePKIAoqOmrKcIpyunXKeEqH2qxKyYrKq0DLiTvDe_l8AawFTB88T2xp7JPcy8z2XQ0NP72QvbC-L342rr7uw47Irub_F289331_rS-wk=

I use EB and hybrid armor/ES gear so I have ~3400 mana pool right now with discipline. I also run high level arctic armour which works great at eliminating all small hits and I have ~3k evasion which synergizes with blind and enfeeble well.

I respecced a couple of +1zombie/skellie nodes because now Im rolling with mix of dominated minions and zombies plus spectres and skellies so I dont need many zombies (5 zombies is enough)

Interesting, thanks for the link.

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LeninGHOLA wrote:

Interesting, thanks for the link.

no problem
I forgot an important thing- I have high mana regen% mods on 4 pieces of gear (jewelry+weapon). thats essential as well as is mid-level clarity.

its nice never really to worry about mana though :)

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grepman wrote:

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LeninGHOLA wrote:

Interesting, thanks for the link.

no problem
I forgot an important thing- I have high mana regen% mods on 4 pieces of gear (jewelry+weapon). thats essential as well as is mid-level clarity.

its nice never really to worry about mana though :)

one build is left for zombies and all other players have lost ?

this company has to bring back minions to some better level than they are right now. why must they be so weak and die so fast ? i dont have fun with minions die over and over.

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Fluffhead wrote:

Nope, that was fixed. You and icelancer both have no idea what you're talking about.

They ficed it. today. Like 2 hours before I posted, and I haven't updated.

So basically... Until today bugged damage.

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domov wrote:

one build is left for zombies and all other players have lost ?

this company has to bring back minions to some better level than they are right now. why must they be so weak and die so fast ? i dont have fun with minions die over and over.

Wait. So as a summoner, you already do almost nothing, and you are complaining about having to resummon minions?

Gamers these days are sooooo lazy.

Summon spell totem. Flammability. Ele weakness. Run near them and ice nova. REsummon dead zombies. Resummon spell totem. Flammability. Ele weakness...

There is stuff to do as a summoner.

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Herpy_Derpleson wrote:

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domov wrote:

one build is left for zombies and all other players have lost ?

this company has to bring back minions to some better level than they are right now. why must they be so weak and die so fast ? i dont have fun with minions die over and over.

Wait. So as a summoner, you already do almost nothing, and you are complaining about having to resummon minions?

Gamers these days are sooooo lazy.

Well there are a limited number of corpses, zombies do pretty decent damage with minion instability, but otherwise they die so fast they do practically no damage with ordinary attacks.

As a summoner all passive points and skill gems are in Minions so if they all die instantly then you are not doing any damage.

At the moment any zone with aoe elemental damage, Crematorium for example, is completely impossible as a summoner. Minions just die instantly, you can't resummon because you can't kill anything to start with, and without zombies as a meatshield any decent damage spectre dies immediately.

I only started a summoner recently so never played one before the bug but the spec felt right before the fix, not overpowered because summoner builds do not clear or kill fast and have serious weaknesses against certain encounters(Oak in Merciless is extremely difficult for example) and getting and keeping good spectres can be difficult and time consuming. I was really impressed, it felt like the only arpg to really make a good summoner class, because they normally suck. Now it feels like the same old shit every other game has, minions are worthless at higher difficulties because they have no survivability.

Skeleton totem is still incredibly good(overpowered even) but that is the same for everyone who can spare the two sockets.


Maybe they were too tanky with capped resists and stacked auras. But as it is with -60% to all they are near useless except as suicide bombs. They need something, either a buff to the minion resist skill gem, a minion resist passive, or just some decent base resists.