Remove MF completely from game

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diablokiller1 wrote:

Remove THIS THREAD completely from game forum

Because you don't agree? Sounds logical.

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pathofbrain wrote:

GGG DONT you DARE removing MF from the game. IMO one of the best MF systems in game history. Especially culling/quant/rarity. Just love it.

Sarcasm I suppose.

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Asphael wrote:

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pathofbrain wrote:

GGG DONT you DARE removing MF from the game. IMO one of the best MF systems in game history. Especially culling/quant/rarity. Just love it.

Sarcasm I suppose.

Nope. I relly like it. Also my Team LOVES it when i use my mf culling zombies.

I support the Idea. But as that Kiwi has already hatched I'd rather support a very careful tuning of the stats/game so that it remains an option among other options.

+1 Remove MF It kills all build and rend 99,999999999999999999999999999% items useless

People think they like MF because it exists and they’ve invented routines to take advantage of it, but nobody likes to fight with MF gear, they want the results while they suffer the fight itself.

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NindeNoxx wrote:

I think everyone who complains about "MF" is a spoiled child who wants things for free.

There are plenty of ARPG without MF and things are not free in them. Also considerer that in those games nobody is claiming to add it; that is because nobody misses what they don't want. You’ll see people asking for pets, dyes, housing, and many “non-combat” things, but nobody wants MF if it doesn’t exist (and when exists is hated by most, proved on this whole thread).

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Destello wrote:

and when exists (mf) is hated by most, proved on this whole thread

Vocal minority. This thread proves nothing, there is no "majority" here, so please.. stop this ignorant/biased claim.

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1988288 wrote:

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Destello wrote:

and when exists (mf) is hated by most, proved on this whole thread

Vocal minority. This thread proves nothing, there is no "majority" here, so please.. stop this ignorant/biased claim.

It is not an ignorant/biased claim, as there isn't any data I'm aware of showing the popularity of MF. All this thread shows is that it is a controverse topic and anyway the goal shouldn't be to cater to the majority but what's best for the game.

So a discussion is in order and your flame baits aren't helping anyone.

Btw. I hope you see the irony in you opening up your post with "vocal minority.". :)

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Asphael wrote:

It is not an ignorant/biased claim, as there isn't any data I'm aware of showing the popularity of MF.

Yes it clearly is, as the person is taking this thread as his base. I probably should've chosen my wording more carefully, but it's very well understood within the context. Semantics suck.

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All this thread shows is that it is a controverse topic and anyway the goal shouldn't be to cater to the majority but what's best for the game.

I agree on the latter. What goes for the former - nothing too controversial, at least in my opinion.

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So a discussion is in order and your flame baits aren't helping anyone.

Please, show where I was trying to "bait" anyone. Just pointed out the person's shallow integrity when it comes to weighting the sides. One has to understand the difference between vocal minority vs silent majority.

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Btw. I hope you see the irony in you opening up your post with "vocal minority.". :)

No, I don't see anything ironical there.

You correctly point out that this thread cannot be taken t osay "the majority hates MF", but you have no evidence whatsoever to believe that this is just a vocal minority.

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I agree on the latter. What goes for the former - nothing too controversial, at least in my opinion.

Well, it seems there are plenty of users having a different opinion and honestly so far no real argument has been presented why MF should be an item stat. The only problem with removing MF is that it's already in the game and removing it would probably upset a lot of people.
But this does not change the fact that it is a horrible design and while removing and re-introducing it in a different way would be the best solution, we can at least try to encourage GGG to do something about the problem.