+1 to trade
+1 to guilds
a developer recently mentioned that they are working on offline trading, thats the way to go to be honest. leave the game experience alone but allow people to make secure forum trades from your browser that doesn't require meeting in person or being in game even. It would be insanely useful
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Posted bydemivion#2965on Jun 12, 2013, 2:36:12 PM
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n00bi wrote:
the idea is nice and not new here in the forums so i think devs have already come across it.I personally would love this as it would improve the trading system a lot and it sounds totally cool.Another interesting method would be opening new areas similar to a market with tends and people behind them where u could click the person just like the vendors and then just like the vendors view their shop :D.Making some instance with 10-15 tends max would be awsome , in the town u cant possible put all the vending stashes and the only solution would be putting only one extra stash and list the other people stashes there just like the notice board , that doesnt feel too good and since to view only one person stash with the option u suggested needs having them in party the function would be kinda useless.we have to consider people change instances and hometowns a lot especially during leveling , crashing ect ect.Thats why making a whole new special extra aura similar to a market would be really better and it would resolve all this problems.
1)U wouldnt have to worry for space as it is basically a new area similar to a market where people stay behind their tends and u can click them to open their shop , 10 15 tends would be more than enough for one area.
2)People wouldnt worry about leveling or crashing because this would be a whole different area (still i feel it wouldnt harm to much if there were some level requirement like 40 or 50)and some cool idea i think it would be really good it would be having some NPC to guard your shop for you and keep the tend up , this npc would be considered like some party member so yeah u will always go to your instance when u just normally use the wp , putting their name in the board of instance which appears when u use ctrl would be stupid as this would serve to see the name of the sellers :D.We should pay these npc with various currencies and items every time we use them to put up a tend as not many people would consider staying on the tends by themselves :D ANYWAY WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THIS if we want it .
Wraeclast is a dangerous and dark place so u cant leave your things just like that avaible to everyone with no protection :P.PLS consider the idea we can rob others thing if they dont stay by themselves or dont pay a npc to guard and expose these items to the buyers plsssssssssssss.
IMO this would be much much better than trading out of the game in the forums or so , probably a good part of the players which have their jobs would profit but the other part of the comunity would just not care about this as it is easy already to have another pc , download PoE on it and open a char just for the trading thing so having BOTH of these new trading methods would make all players profit from it.
Extra things i think would be obvious to implement with the market would be reading the name of the owner in the shop the npc is lets say hosting and obviously treat this npc as a kind of party member so the owner and the other players who party with him would joing the instance without the need of scrolling to madness to find the name of the owner in the list of names :P.
The npc would still be there even after crashes or disconnects for at least 5 minutes or so.
Some problems : Whenever the player decides to host the shop by himslef whenever he gets disconnected i dont see anyway he can find his instance again :P
I cant think of a better way to advertise your shop and make it more accessible to others INGAME other that writting on the chat bla bla selling cleave swords come check my shop and then the person pming u , u get to a party and then he can check your items in the shop meh that seems annoying.A * go to x tend* option would be nice so whenver u see a person advertising some items u are interested in u just click the option and the either the instance of the person gets more noticable or u will automatically go when u just use the wp.I dont know how hard can this be to implement so yeah thats why i consider it a problem.Also there would be the partying with more than one people issue which would be completely resolved with the go to x tend option but yeah.
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Posted byDeize#0276on Jun 12, 2013, 2:38:02 PM
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WoahFun wrote:
Why would I shout in town to advertise to 10 people when I can shout in trade chat to advertise to the whole server? Same for stash tabs, trade chat is better.
you didnt really understand i think...
Firstly. Trade chat doesnt mean the whole server, just like 100 people, because chat is "instanced" too if you havent noticed it so far..
Also it doesnt matter, because just few of them will monotonously check all the items you spam there. Thats one problem i mentioned in the post if you missed it..
You would advertise your stash's content by writing as "/yell" what kind of items are there, but not linking exact items.
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Posted byMoeeom123#3573on Jun 12, 2013, 2:55:52 PM
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just saying...i dont think item hawkers in town will make this better than d2, though it would make it feel more like a trading town along a river from a novel. Would need to add 'meat pies' and 'spools of thread' to the game to make the hawkers more realistic though.
besides...this game is better than the current versions of d2 anyways.
Hey...is this thing on?
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Posted byLostForm#2813on Jun 12, 2013, 3:00:23 PM
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Moeeom123 wrote:
Okay, here is the "second phase of the Open Beta".
This is now the time to stop making more ingame content, microtransactions, and concentrate only on trading&social system, which is the less improved part of the game, while it should be the most.
An online game like this is built around trading, but now trade system is a mess, and it determines really the feeling of gameplay.
They don't have to stop what they're doing to make the trade system better; I'm sure they already have ideas on the table to improve the current trade system. But more content is what a lot of players are looking to see as well, not just a better trade system. Micro-transactions are pretty much the only way GGG generates revenue. You want them to stop?
My point is that there will probably be a complete overhaul of the trade system in due time. But, they shouldn't stop everything else just because the trade system is far from optimized--because in time, it will be.
This game isn't centered completely around trading in my opinion. POE is a game about progression. Trading is just a feature of the game. I agree it is an extremely important aspect of this game, but it isn't its center.
Feel free to disagree: I'm just saying how I feel about the issue.
Edit: The trading system could be improved. But since it isn't right now...there are multiple online tools to find what you want on the trade forums (POExyz.is and POExplorer.com). Those are great forum queries if you want look for an item quickly. You can also craft your own items. There are multiple ways to get what you want. Yes, trades happen all the time, but just wait and GGG will improve the system.
Timezone: PST (California) Last edited by KickAcid#4099 on Jun 12, 2013, 3:23:19 PM
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Posted byKickAcid#4099on Jun 12, 2013, 3:18:48 PM
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D2 was great, but its "god-like" status is mainly due to nostalgia.
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Posted byRoute1#7248on Jun 12, 2013, 3:29:52 PM
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I think there are some excellent suggestions here. Many improvements to trade are indeed in the works, but I will pass this message on to the appropriate designers to make sure they see it. Thanks very much for your feedback and passion for the game!
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Posted byBrianWeissman#5479on Jun 12, 2013, 3:35:06 PMAlpha Member
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KickAcid wrote:
I wrote that part in that way because it catches more attention... but ofc i know that and i agree with you
I just wanted to draw attention to this matter.
I dont care if they do trade improving otherwise, i just gave an example, there are lots of options.
The main question isn't that you agree with the way i would improve trading.
It is if you ppl agree that trading needs vast improvement, since the developers didnt really say anything about this matter so far.
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Posted byMoeeom123#3573on Jun 12, 2013, 3:43:17 PM
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BrianWeissman wrote:
I think there are some excellent suggestions here. Many improvements to trade are indeed in the works, but I will pass this message on to the appropriate designers to make sure they see it. Thanks very much for your feedback and passion for the game!
yey. my work is done here:) thanks, really.
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Posted byMoeeom123#3573on Jun 12, 2013, 3:46:41 PM
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one small suggestion:
please, please use the 'dots matrix' to show links in trade chat. please, please, please
given my terrrrrible luck with fusing recently I only buy items with desired link combination and have to wade trough dozens of nice items with no links
funny it was easier for me to double 6l armour than to 4l my faigraves hat :/
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Posted bysidtherat#1310on Jun 12, 2013, 3:53:33 PM
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