[3.25] Chaos Zoomancer & Minion Army Necromancer League Starter (All content - Ubers, T17, Simu)

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Mentoya wrote:
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Hoffen wrote:
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Mentoya wrote:
Hey mate, another question for ya. So in the guide it talks about using the Dendrobate if you can't afford the 6 link Covenant, but I noticed the Dendrobate requires 300 Dexterity to get the big poison damage , which is WAY WAY above my current Dex of 71. So either I missed some Dexterity nodes earlier, or should I just go with a strong rare? Also, I don't have the poison setup yet. (Only in early White maps by the way).


We only use Dendrobate for the "Socketed gems are supported by lvl 10 chance to poison". The 300dex modifier is completely irrelevant since our minions are doing the poison damage not "you".


okay gotcha, I just went with the rare for now per your guide, and will go with the Dendrobate once I get another divine or two saved and got my poison jewels etc.

EDIT: This comment is for others who may have struggled when hitting maps like I did. During the campaign I had no issues, but once I entered maps, I suddenly became the target and was getting hit all the time and even died once. Once I switched to the 6 link and equipped the flesh and stone, steelskin etc and ditched the absolution setup and got my skellies going, it made a HUGE difference and content started melting. Following the maxroll guide carefully is huge. I really love how scalable this is as you build your currency.


A 6 link covenant is only around 2D atm so its not really worth getting Dendrobate.
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A 6 link covenant is only around 2D atm so its not really worth getting Dendrobate.



Oh that is great news. Yea it was definitely higher when I priced it a few days ago. I will just save for that then.
Is your progression portion on the atlas pretty much in order? Like do I start at the type and don't move on until I complete each step above it? Also on the abyss jewel on the belt, what are good stats to have for that? Was going to look at your character to see, but noticed you already have the mageblood :)
Only farming white maps right now, but so far so good.
Last edited by Mentoya on Aug 11, 2024, 8:40:49 PM
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Mentoya wrote:
Is your progression portion on the atlas pretty much in order? Like do I start at the type and don't move on until I complete each step above it? Also on the abyss jewel on the belt, what are good stats to have for that? Was going to look at your character to see, but noticed you already have the mageblood :)
Only farming white maps right now, but so far so good.


Im not sure what you mean about atlas progression? I do not cover that in this guide, you can basically farm anything you want except for legion with this build.

You want high poison chance and life on the belt as priority 1.
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Hoffen wrote:
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Mentoya wrote:
Is your progression portion on the atlas pretty much in order? Like do I start at the type and don't move on until I complete each step above it? Also on the abyss jewel on the belt, what are good stats to have for that? Was going to look at your character to see, but noticed you already have the mageblood :)
Only farming white maps right now, but so far so good.


Im not sure what you mean about atlas progression? I do not cover that in this guide, you can basically farm anything you want except for legion with this build.

You want high poison chance and life on the belt as priority 1.


Oh crap, I meant to type "maxroll guide progression" not "atlas progression" sorry. lol. I was mostly asking that because when I look at the Progression tab, I feel incredibly overwhelmed because it's so much ya need to do. So I was just wondering if it's best to follow it in order from the top to the bottom, so that I know exactly what I should do next.
Last edited by Mentoya on Aug 12, 2024, 11:58:58 AM
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Mentoya wrote:
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Hoffen wrote:
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Mentoya wrote:
Is your progression portion on the atlas pretty much in order? Like do I start at the type and don't move on until I complete each step above it? Also on the abyss jewel on the belt, what are good stats to have for that? Was going to look at your character to see, but noticed you already have the mageblood :)
Only farming white maps right now, but so far so good.


Im not sure what you mean about atlas progression? I do not cover that in this guide, you can basically farm anything you want except for legion with this build.

You want high poison chance and life on the belt as priority 1.


Oh crap, I meant to type "maxroll guide progression" not "atlas progression" sorry. lol. I was mostly asking that because when I look at the Progression tab, I feel incredibly overwhelmed because it's so much ya need to do. So I was just wondering if it's best to follow it in order from the top to the bottom, so that I know exactly what I should do next.


I have tried to order the milestones in a good priority "order". So you can do them one by one but you can always jump a head on a milestone to look at. One for example is if you are ready to equip your AG then that should be done as soon as possible, just make sure the gem level is high enough.
Last edited by Hoffen on Aug 13, 2024, 12:53:20 AM
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I have tried to order the milestones in a good priority "order". So you can do them one by one but you can always jump a head on a milestone to look at a little later one for example if you are ready to equip your AG then that should be done as soon as possible, just make sure the gem level is high enough.



Okay perfect! I'm getting use to the progression tab and noticed you had them separated between early game / mid game / late game


I think I got everything down now, but my question that I couldn't find in your guide is what is considered early game vrs mid vrs late game in terms of THIS build progression?


The answer to this will greatly help me to make sure I'm on the right track and not trying to do too much too fast and will prevent frustration. Hopefully it might help others reading this as well. I tried to google it but I found so many conflicting answers lol. No rush in answering if you are busy. Thank you so much!
Last edited by Mentoya on Aug 13, 2024, 12:52:26 AM
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Mentoya wrote:
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I have tried to order the milestones in a good priority "order". So you can do them one by one but you can always jump a head on a milestone to look at a little later one for example if you are ready to equip your AG then that should be done as soon as possible, just make sure the gem level is high enough.



Okay perfect! I'm getting use to the progression tab and noticed you had them separated between early game / mid game / late game


I think I got everything down now, but my question that I couldn't find in your guide is what is considered early game vrs mid vrs late game in terms of THIS build progression?


The answer to this will greatly help me to make sure I'm on the right track and not trying to do too much too fast and will prevent frustration. Hopefully it might help others reading this as well. I tried to google it but I found so many conflicting answers lol. No rush in answering if you are busy. Thank you so much!


You should make sure to look through entire Early game before going to Mid etc.
Do not skip early and jump into Mid / Late.
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Hoffen wrote:
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Mentoya wrote:
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I have tried to order the milestones in a good priority "order". So you can do them one by one but you can always jump a head on a milestone to look at a little later one for example if you are ready to equip your AG then that should be done as soon as possible, just make sure the gem level is high enough.



Okay perfect! I'm getting use to the progression tab and noticed you had them separated between early game / mid game / late game


I think I got everything down now, but my question that I couldn't find in your guide is what is considered early game vrs mid vrs late game in terms of THIS build progression?


The answer to this will greatly help me to make sure I'm on the right track and not trying to do too much too fast and will prevent frustration. Hopefully it might help others reading this as well. I tried to google it but I found so many conflicting answers lol. No rush in answering if you are busy. Thank you so much!


You should make sure to look through entire Early game before going to Mid etc.
Do not skip early and jump into Mid / Late.



I think I found my answer on reddit

Early Game is: "Basic atlas completion is early game."

Mid Game is : "Completing your watchstone collection is midgame"

Late Game is : "Killing endgame pinnacle bosses , completing Uncharted Realms fights is late game. "

I got this from a reddit post although it's a bit dated :) That's what I need to know. I didn't want to think that I had to have that entire "early game" section of the guide done before leaving white maps. That's why I was asking.
Last edited by Mentoya on Aug 13, 2024, 1:17:59 AM
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Mentoya wrote:


I got this from a reddit post although it's a bit dated :) That's what I need to know. I didn't want to think that I had to have that entire "early game" section of the guide done before leaving white maps. That's why I was asking.


This is not correct for this build guide. You can do all your watchstones with the early game setup without even a covenant with this build.
Same thing with T16s.
When you get covenant even some of the easier ubers are possible.
Mid / Late game in the guide is to make the build even stronger and make ubers/t17/ juiced T16 easier.
Last edited by Hoffen on Aug 13, 2024, 1:25:59 AM

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