[1.0.1b] Summoner Guide / Minion Guide

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Vigor113 wrote:

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jamusmcgamus wrote:

hmmmm, I dont think carrion queens are that great - they sometimes amble about not shooting at all, and since they cast from quite 'high' their fireballs will hit the ground instead of any targets behind where they aimed, quite annoying and leads to alot of wasted damage.

And this is only in outdoor areas. Most time they are completely useless in maps like sewers.

I think spectre ai needs a lot of rework.

i mentioned it above but in the "wall of text" even i had problems finding it



i put nearly ALL usefull or "half usefull" spectre into this guide cuz alot of people alot of play styles . if i missed one u can have ur favourite spectre in this guide too just gimme some infos :)
the reason for the queens as vigor said was for open maps only see detailed description of the queens ,

and the discussion at page 2

bump updateded

Blackguard Mage

and Burning Miscreation

after watching and looking at some more summoner input again to mention kripparian ,

his idea of the apes in act 2 are pretty nice , a whole group of frenzied spectres and zombies

works only on places without trees because they still summon the little anoying apes

since they are meelee

raise spectre ,
minion life
life leech
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the problem with frenzy apes is that they insta die in maps due to being melee and low level

you are much better off with all ranged spectre

also just to clarify this isnt by any means a new idea those apes have been there since cb

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Amiag wrote:

the problem with frenzy apes is that they insta die in maps due to being melee and low level

you are much better off with all ranged spectre

also just to clarify this isnt by any means a new idea those apes have been there since cb

thx i overlooked the maps , and that the apes are from akt 2 :) i wont put the apes in the first page .
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got a question to a special support gem i HOPE someone can answer me this.

Does IRON WILL ( Str bonus applied to spells) work with spectre????


since remote mine works - it "SHOULD" work and brings 20% dmg every 100 str.
so if u have around 250strength iron will "should" bring 50% dmg from STR bonus and some small% to spell damage. so it outperforms remote mine.

so far have a nice spectre

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HaleBopp wrote:

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Amiag wrote:

the problem with frenzy apes is that they insta die in maps due to being melee and low level

you are much better off with all ranged spectre

also just to clarify this isnt by any means a new idea those apes have been there since cb

thx i overlooked the maps , and that the apes are from akt 2 :) i wont put the apes in the first page .
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got a question to a special support gem i HOPE someone can answer me this.

Does IRON WILL ( Str bonus applied to spells) work with spectre????


since remote mine works - it "SHOULD" work and brings 20% dmg every 100 str.
so if u have around 250strength iron will "should" bring 50% dmg from STR bonus and some small% to spell damage. so it outperforms remote mine.

so far have a nice spectre

Don't see how remote mine relates to Iron will, but the passive won't affect it - the support gem will only support the gem if the spectre itself has strength (which I have no idea) and convert it's own strength.

Minions don't get our stats/passives - that is why they the minion builds are not gear dependent.

thinking of it more like remote mine - since my spectre cast has a delay(iron will gem has reduced cast speed) - ergo the Str bonus added as dmg.
since i cast a remote mine - the mine gives it bonus dmg.

I also know spectre gems DONT benefit from the chars stat (expect Minion stuff) BUT from every support gem linked to it ,as well as the initial spectre cast get.
or to say - every "+dmg spell" effects the spectre cast AND the spectre . i do know that.
test it with faster cast :)

and for the wording
" Strength's damage bonus applies to Spell Damage as well for Supported Skills"
The bonus will be +1% increased Spell Damage for every five points of strength.
(from the gem itself and POE wiki)


it SHOULD increase the spectre dmg cast AND ofc the spectre depends on STR bonus (which would be awsome at BM)- like remote mine.


Pls give me a good reason why it shouldnt work - that would be the better question :)

It supports the ability.

If you have say Freezing Pulse - it is adjusted by spell power - now add Iron Will - it is further increased by strength to spell power conversion.

If you Have Raise Spectre - it is adjusted by -only minion passives- now add Iron Will - it does not further adjust because it doesn't scale with your strength to begin with - HOWEVER if the spectre itself has a base strength then perhap it gains something - but extremely unlikely to be much cause I doubt very much they have much strength if any.

ok i get the stuff now :)

to the last point

i fear the spectre doesnt gain any bonus from his str since iron will is NOT displayed in the tooltip :/

ps: thx for the easy reading explanation ;)

none is using remote mine for zombies ? it give a huge multiplicative factor to damage