[1.0.1b] Summoner Guide / Minion Guide

Ok,that's what i thought.So that means they never crit which is quite weird.

yes i can observe they never crit . so incr crit would be not so much needed

but added fire and chance to ignite works pretty good . whole packs are burning and u only need 1 for this :)

still their defensive ability is the most important thing with them.

from the dmg they cant compare to some other mobs - EVEN AFTER THEY TOOK OUT THAT BM's COULD STACK ARGGG


____________________meelee variation ____________
1. Raise Spectre
x. Melee Splash
x. Multistrike / Faster Attacks
x. Life Leech - life leech will only work with the initial hit of multistrike just 4 info
Correct me if im wrong i tested it alot with the Burning Miscreations.
x. Incr Phys Dmg
x. Added Fire dmg

_____Trap variation__
under construction , check trap projectile with chain / fork
1. raise spectre
x Multi traps
x

Stats
Time to get: 2-5 mins Sceptre of god
Attack/Spell :Melee Attack , Lighting Trap
Behaviour : set 1 trap and begin to melee fight
Survivability : low to medium compared to Zombis/Skeletons/Carrion Queens/Flame Sentinels
Attack/Cast Speed : unknown slow - medium - fast - very fast (TentacleMistress)
Dmage Output: unknown - compared to GOD TIER
Curses : xxxx
Support Auras : xxx vit /purity - what the spectre needs most
Minion Speed : medium

Description / Info / Personal Feeling

Still not much research done. when u target them it says "cast lighting nova" i dont know if their spell/trap - is truly a trap wwhere "multiple traps" come in.
Input appreciated since i started a new league.



undying archivist , cast freezing pulse

1. Raise spectre
x. Multiple Proj
x Faster Cast
x minion life , because their squishyness
x life leech ,

Stats
Time to get: 2-5 mins the library akt 3 ,

Attack/Spell : freezing pulse ,
Behaviour : cast freezing pulse rly often
Survivability : low to extrem very low
Attack/Cast Speed : medium
Dmage Output: unknown - compared to GOD TIER , but it felt like a lvl 20 FP
Curses : elemtal weaknes , crit ,
Support Auras : xxx vit /purity - what the spectre needs most
Minion Speed : medium

Description / Info / Personal Feeling


i ll check the freeezing pulse skill

undying archivist , cast freezing pulse

1. Raise spectre
x. Multiple Proj
x Faster Cast
x minion life , because their squishyness
x life leech , mana leech due to the patching in 1.0
x faster projectiles, incr crit , power charge on crit

Stats
Time to get: 2-5 mins the library akt 3 ,

Attack/Spell : freezing pulse ,
Behaviour : cast freezing pulse rly often
Survivability : low to extrem very low
Attack/Cast Speed : medium
Dmage Output: unknown - compared to GOD TIER , but it felt like a lvl 20 FP
Curses : elemtal weaknes , crit ,
Support Auras : xxx vit /purity - what the spectre needs most
Minion Speed : medium

Description / Info / Personal Feeling


i ll check the freeezing pulse skill , maybe they stay in cast range if they have enough faster projectiles :) check this again when im ingame



since we are summoners and like to be lazy

i ll throw in 2 new skillgems which didnt get alot attention from summoner

Animate Weapon - animates a weapon restricted to item level.

Animate weapon with lvl 20 has itemlvl 75 , so we need at least a +2 to minion helm
and we can get the itemlevel to 81.

30 seconds duration

no restriction of nummers of weapons - only the loot which drops.
cast on white weapons usefull on this only
because it gets ~ 250% increased physical dmg which would be a EPIC rare melee weapon.

gems which are needed definitly
1. Animate Weapon
2. Incr Duration
x. added ele/chaos dmg
x. Faster Atks/multistrike / melee splash
x. Minion Speed ?
x. Minion DMG , remote mine ,

with the incr duration skill points they last (from the skill post) 46 seconds. thats not much but i think i can feel a dmg output from a animated 2hander at a rare mob


Animate Guardian

i read only bad things about them.
maybe with a little love we can find a nice setup , since he stays after logout we skip incr duration , but i dont know the real purpose of the guardian :) is it a DD or Tank ?


1 Animate Guardian
2. Minion Life
3. Minion resist
x.
x.
x

patch notes which have to be mentioned:

Monster skill costs and mana pools now increase proportional to their level in a more natural way.

- the flame sentis sometimes stop casting maybe OOM , i ll check mana leech on caster mobs


-Grapplers will now discharge when they have any kind of Charge, not just Power Charges.
will be added soon to spectres

Frenzy Apes

1. Raise spectre

Stats
Time to get: akt 2 crossroads

Attack/Spell : melee
Behaviour : cast Frenzy to all allys can be very helpfull to alot of minions.
Survivability : medium
Attack/Cast Speed : Utility
Dmage Output: very low , just for utility for other spectres
Curses : warlords mark
Support Auras : xxx vit /purity - what the spectre needs most
Minion Speed : slow

Description / Info / Personal Feeling


they cast a frenzy buff to the allies, since the buffs needs all of his mana he ll cast alot more with Blood magic in it.


grappler , flicker discharge guys

1. Raise spectre
x power charge on crit
x endurance charge on melee stun
x life leech
x incr crit strikes
x somth for their meelee to stun the enemy.

Stats
Time to get: 2-4 mins , akt 3 sewers , warehouse ,

Attack/Spell : melee / discharge spell
Behaviour : very aggresive , flickers to enemy to die soon
Survivability : medium
Attack/Cast Speed : low attack , discharge cast
Dmage Output: unknow not yet tested
Curses : warlords mark for endurance charges and life leech
Support Auras : xxx vit /purity - what the spectre needs most
Minion Speed : very high cuz of flicker

Description / Info / Personal Feeling

they flicker in melee range and make melee atks , as soon as they have a charge they ll discharge which is very powerfull. now we have to get him alot charges

most troublesome mob for summoners :

Piety : cold arrow , lighting ball , lighting storm.

Dominus & company : whirlwind guy , Area DOT



Avian Retch - the imperial gargends


Resist Cold
Consume Corpses
Vomit Corpses


dunno the dmg so far , it seem they make physical , they have a good dmg output BUT very less hp , and must eat a corpse before they shoot. 1 corpse is 3 bullets

projectile based





BM - after 1.0

MATT C Setup
1- Raise Spectre
2- Increased Burning Damage
3- Minion Life
4- Minion Res
5- Increase AOE
6- Minion Speed

Suicigobo setup
1- Raise spectre
2- Increased burning damage
3- Increased minion life
4- Increased minion and totem elemental resistance
5- Increased Area of effect
I run a 4 link which is surely viable. A 5-link will greatly help tho

Baalat
My setup (5L) is:
BM:
1- RS
2- Increased AOE
3- Multistrike
4- Life Leech
5- Inc burning dmg
6- (minion life waiting for 6L)


HaleBopp / HaleJesus ingame Setup
4 Link atm Blue Blue Red Red
1- RS
2- Incr Burn
3- Minion Life
4- Life Leech
5- faster atk
6- xxx unknown terror meelee splash for more LL ,
I Need to test their Meelee survivability but lacking a 5 link. would LOOOOVE to buy one in HC , evasion energy shield +mana , the lvl 71



1. Raise Spectre blue
2. Incr Burning red
3. incr minion life blue
4. minion resi blue
5. Life Leech Red
6. Faster Atks/minion speed Green / blue

i try to figure out a piety setup and / or a faster clearing setup.

After last patch Burned Miscreations become good spectres again.
Raise Spectre + Remote mine + Minion life + Ele Resists + Increased AOE.
Need 6L them with Increased Burning Damage or Concentrated Effect. Guess it will be OP.

i all add a 1.0.2 update when all the gems for BMs

and other spectres

undying alchemist (chaos cloud)
the chaos bears .

are definitly set ,

all are welcome to start discussions about the changes or the new support gem setup for these 3 spectres

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minus4 wrote:

Since I've done my own tests, I'll post the numbers.

186% increased minion life from gear, passives, and Minion Life support gem.
11% increased minion damage from gear.
--Above stats apply to all spectres below--


Level 33 Burned Miscreation, tested on Cruel Hillock.

Raise Spectre
24 seconds

Raise Spectre+ Concentrated Effect (Lv1, 50% more AoE damage, 30% reduced radius)
24 seconds

Raise Spectre+ Minion Damage (Lv17, 74% increased minion damage)
14 seconds

Raise Spectre+ Fire Penetration
24 seconds

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Moose65 wrote:

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exp4 wrote:

after the patch minion damage works on degen type stuff like for bm right? is it same for the minion damage gem as well? so can i do minion damage + burning dmg for wtf dps.

also if you snapshot with TB do you need another pure ES chest or could you equip like a 1k evasion chest to give u more survivability with like 1 lbue socket.

Yes and Yes. There really needs to be a commonly asked question at the start of this thread.

Btw, here is the optimal damage setup for Spectres (although after leveling feel free to use a CoD gem for some WTF damage).

RS > Remote > Trap > Conc > Min DMG > Min Life

For those who need some more range

RS > Remote > Trap > Increased Burning > Min DMG > Min Life

Max range

BM > Remote > Trap > Increased AoE > Min DMG > Min Life

So minion damage gem and nodes increase BM aura dps now, what about concentrated effect?

2nd question, is Q flammability worth it? i'm not sure the dps / tick of BM aura and it really wouldn't get to do much more damage even if ignited. because they die so fast.

Edit: tested for hours using fraps to confrim myself the new patch affecting these gems., hard to tell because he dies so quick and i have to account for 'melee' hits, i had to run each setup until he had the same amount of melee hits, it freaking to forever. Used lv 33 BM on cruel hillock, the follow DID increase dps of aura

Minion Life
Minion Damage
Concentrated Effect
Increased Burning Damage

Minion life nodes and Minion Damage nodes, i removed 2 dps nodes (30%) dps for one test and two life nodes (20%) life for another, and the difference so was small i can't conclude the nodes increased the aura damage. But i can 'assume' it did because the min damage and min life gems substantially increased aura DPS. I can't imagine the aura only getting an increase from gems and not nodes. If the nodes did not increase dps and you wanted to save nodes, this would be valuable information as it could be used for more ES / resists / zealots / perma curses ect.

conc effect and increased aoe did not seem to change aura radius, but i will test this further. I used screenshots of exactly when hillock lit up and they seemed to be the same distance.

will test it while running around areas packed with mobbs to see if i can tell.

Anyone else want to help test?
still missing if aura radius is actualy changed, and if nodes both life and damage increase aura dps, i assume they do, hillock died 1s faster with the two tests.

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HaleBopp wrote:

i all add a 1.0.2 update when all the gems for BMs

and other spectres

undying alchemist (chaos cloud)
the chaos bears .

are definitly set ,

all are welcome to start discussions about the changes or the new support gem setup for these 3 spectres

"

minus4 wrote:

Since I've done my own tests, I'll post the numbers.

186% increased minion life from gear, passives, and Minion Life support gem.
11% increased minion damage from gear.
--Above stats apply to all spectres below--


Level 33 Burned Miscreation, tested on Cruel Hillock.

Raise Spectre
24 seconds

Raise Spectre+ Concentrated Effect (Lv1, 50% more AoE damage, 30% reduced radius)
24 seconds

Raise Spectre+ Minion Damage (Lv17, 74% increased minion damage)
14 seconds

Raise Spectre+ Fire Penetration
24 seconds

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Moose65 wrote:

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exp4 wrote:

after the patch minion damage works on degen type stuff like for bm right? is it same for the minion damage gem as well? so can i do minion damage + burning dmg for wtf dps.

also if you snapshot with TB do you need another pure ES chest or could you equip like a 1k evasion chest to give u more survivability with like 1 lbue socket.

Yes and Yes. There really needs to be a commonly asked question at the start of this thread.

Btw, here is the optimal damage setup for Spectres (although after leveling feel free to use a CoD gem for some WTF damage).

RS > Remote > Trap > Conc > Min DMG > Min Life

For those who need some more range

RS > Remote > Trap > Increased Burning > Min DMG > Min Life

Max range

BM > Remote > Trap > Increased AoE > Min DMG > Min Life

I read through the thread multiple times but cant find where someone tested the trap damage? Could you please provide source? I've tested / confirmed everything else above for the BM's. Thanks! Best summoner thread ever.

How about animate guardian with leer cast, unique helm?