[1.0.1b] Summoner Guide / Minion Guide

I also don't run blood magic. Anyways tested another configuration i like

2x arc mages, faster cast - ele pro - life leach - Remote Mine -6th(minion dmg or light pen)
1x BM, increased burning - minion life - increased aoe - chance ignite -6th(minion resist or item rarity or minion speed)

i can't tell if remote mine works on BM's UR

I run Elemental weakness + Vulnerability + Warlords mark(i use warlords when my zombies need a heal or i need flasks charges)

basically spam flasks every time they are full to keep everything sustained.

Since the arc mages shock for me now I have a free 3 link.

I use faster attack + leapslam + weapon with fast atk spd for super speed travel. With this i drop my quicksilver for another instant minion flask for even more sustain. + one granite.

Necronomicon: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617098
Build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/409940
Summoner Dischord: https://discord.gg/XwWdSUa
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/zhoukon
Last edited by mattc3303#7526 on Aug 18, 2013, 4:35:46 AM
good morning folks :)
(10:00 morning european time )

thx allot for so much feedback , and for so much various spectre variation.

before i start to quote and thx ppl in special and ask a little bit i want to throw in the curse
"conductivity" 10-14 % chance to extra shock
depend "how u plan to shock the enemy" u can get up to
20% chance to shock from witch tree ,
5% chance to shock from shadow tree (matt u may remember my old build where i wandered to the shadow was thinking about ARC shock for my minions)
10 % shock q20 arc
10-14% shock from curse
10% shock q20 added lighting dmg

total of 55%- 59% of shock chance should work fine with every minion :)





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Baalat wrote:
Currently playing BM + arc mage (2 spectres only)
Today I just did solo Canyon lvl 73 map, rare, +93 quantity (quite hard modes)
These 2 guys wiped the floor, even the boss had no chance (sniper, chaos dmg, puncture, multiple proj, etc etc)

My setup (5L) is:
BM: RS - AOE - Multistrike - Life Leech - Inc burning dmg - (minion life waiting for 6L)
Arc mage: RS - Faster cast - Inc crit strike - Ele proliferation - Life leech - (minion life waiting for 6L)

I had to switch to arc mage due to the upcoming nerf to the shaggy bears

Curses: vulnerability + enfeeble ( enfeeble mostly for me =D )
Auras: all but hatred (running 3 auras on life with prism guardian)
EE with ice spear+gmp totem
Necromantic aegis!

Btw the zombies also are uber deadly with multistrike - added fire dmg - remote mine



Thx alot for this input i ll update the informations on page one.
As well as the map informations for suggested spectres.
another word to the 5 link - EPIC setup grats u found this i was thinking this night (7 hours ago) about a decent setup for both spectres BM and BM lol but didnt found one
*****at this point we need a shortcut for the blackguard mages . LT BITCH (lighting thorn bitch?) :) ****

and enfeeble is only def , a blue one i know :) temporal chains helps too AND increases the amount the BM can leech cuz if a mob runs away he can chase better

there pops out another question .
does temporal chain increase shock duration ? like it does with burning duration?




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dessloc wrote:
I personally don't need to spam animation flasks with NA + vitality. Try using vuln + ele weakness + arc to proc EE, stuff dies in seconds once the BMs turn on UF.

Things that definitely increase unrighteous fire damage:

Vulnerability curse (direct buff to DOTs)
Flammability curse (lowers fire resists)
Elemental Weakness curse (lowers fire resists)
Proccing EE with cold or lightning damage (lowers fire resists)
Increased burning damage support gem

Minion damage doesn't work, regular damage modifiers don't work on DOTs. Haven't had a chance to test remote mine yet. Minion life might work, especially if unrighteous fire is equivalent to RF in terms of damage output. Haven't extensively tested it, I use it anyway just for spectre survivability. And of course increased AOE works with UF.



Thx alot for the short overview for the dmg increase soon the BM will be not under construction anymore , i checked some support gem from RF to copy it to the minions but didnt find any good one we dont use :) also there is alot of information i have to sum up in the first site .

on this stage i wanted to ask for help from a native english speaker :) or a good german one that isnt orcish like me. to update the guide in a better format
another question . i may think about split the guide into generel minion and map only guide

since one idea a little while ago (and im still sure of it) that some map mods have same mobs more often.
i observated "monster deal 90-100% more dmg as fire" i frequently got titys and sentis little input appreciatet



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iowercase wrote:

4) Aura activation. The best I can tell, BMs activate their aura when they want to perform an action but get interrupted or obstructed in some fashion. Either by getting stunned in the middle of an attack or movement, or having their pathing blocked when they aggro onto an enemy. You can observe this pretty reliably when you WP into docks, if you can find a group of enemies on the other side of that wall and engage them by casting skelly totems around the corner, your BMs will then try to engage but they'll find the wall is in their way, get pissed and then set themselves on fire every time. This is consistent with my longstanding observation that BMs light up much faster on indoors maps (more obstructions) than outdoors.



if u dont have a wall to block , my 1st summoner made a mix of "curse and regen totem" into the air.(around 1 minute) no enemy needed and they will turn on the aura.


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i ll unreveal my summoner in short words i hope others join so we have a idea.

Bones of Ullr Everytime
First76/2nd Summoner 74: Arc lvl 1 Culling , HP , Vitality, Purity , Minion instability , Flammability , 2nd Sentinels , 1st BM , Tittys , Sentis . Most support Gems were Minion Dmg / Minion Life. No dmg from the actual summoner cuz arc had culling strike and i were at the shadow 5% shock . was before / while this guide were alot of info were tested.

3rd Summoner 79: Power Siphon , Discharge , Endu cry , Vitality Purity Grace , Iron Ref .
i try not to die :/ meh , HP Armor , ES , Max resi , lacking on DMG so switched to BM
and checked out the LT bitches. in search of a decent shock spectre cuz im planing to get determination too.

Y im a chicken who dont want to die :) so i drop haste , hatred wrath. thinking about
blood magic discipline .


TERROR CRAFT AGAIN !!!

Spoiler

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sinisterhatter wrote:
I have a question sorry if it was already answered some other place cant seem to find it.Im using a necro build with specters and zombies and i seem to have a problem with modifying the damage on burning miss-creations I know they use righteous fire but it dose not seem to be exactly the same as the player version.

Increased area seems to have no effect
increased minion damage seems not to help
increased minion life seems like it helps
elemental proliferation seems like it works and prob shouldn't
item rarity and quality gems seem to have no effect.
Chance to ignite rofl

thanks in advance



Witch : HaleJesus LVL 82 Arc Summoner
SpectreGuide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/292391/page/1
pls forgive my gibberish space orc english - its not my native language
Last edited by HaleBopp#0969 on Aug 18, 2013, 8:58:50 AM
You prob only need 1 arc mage now that I think about it, freeing some valuable boot slot for more defense. I'll upload a video tomorrow, I have this insane fast leap slamming in the mob group and enduring cry, cursing. It really cuts my map travel time by a lot.

Anyone know if chance to ignite works on BM's UR? Feels like it does.
Necronomicon: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617098
Build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/409940
Summoner Dischord: https://discord.gg/XwWdSUa
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/zhoukon
hey Hale, good one there about temp chains, it also helps to keep shock for longer!
love that curse, what a package!

ign: GotZappedForFree
Harbinger Store - Baalat's Harbie Shopie https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1931620
lol .....

BM with
-INCR burning
-ELE prof
-Chance to ignite

dont work good

ele prof , chance to ignite doesnt work
Witch : HaleJesus LVL 82 Arc Summoner
SpectreGuide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/292391/page/1
pls forgive my gibberish space orc english - its not my native language
Last edited by HaleBopp#0969 on Aug 20, 2013, 4:10:13 AM
What two bubbles? can u screen shot that for us?

BM with
-INCR burning
-ELE prof
-Chance to ignite

Am guessing the instant fire damage that kills a mob, ignites->proliferates to other mobs. So you have two burning affects going at the same time?

I might drop my AOE increase if this works.

I really enjoy how we provide information to each other. At least for me it has really evolved my build and setup to what it is today. Keep up the good work guys.

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Inner force increased from 12% to 15%.

this is going to be quite nice for my 7 auras
Necronomicon: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617098
Build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/409940
Summoner Dischord: https://discord.gg/XwWdSUa
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/zhoukon
Last edited by mattc3303#7526 on Aug 18, 2013, 9:46:33 AM
screenshot done , where to upload?
image catch


terror craft
undying cultist marketplace
feezing pulse ,
resist elemntal dmg ,






**** EDIT ****

confirmed
Witch : HaleJesus LVL 82 Arc Summoner
SpectreGuide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/292391/page/1
pls forgive my gibberish space orc english - its not my native language
Last edited by HaleBopp#0969 on Aug 18, 2013, 10:37:30 AM
use this: http://www.wthax.org/

I like that better than imgur, upload your image

just link us the .image file
Necronomicon: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617098
Build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/409940
Summoner Dischord: https://discord.gg/XwWdSUa
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/zhoukon
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mattc3303 wrote:
What two bubbles? can u screen shot that for us?
BM with
-INCR burning
-ELE prof
-Chance to ignite

Am guessing the instant fire damage that kills a mob, ignites->proliferates to other mobs. So you have two burning affects going at the same time?

I'm almost positive that neither chance to ignite nor ele proliferation work with unrighteous fire, or at the very least they should not work. Both require a hit to activate, and UF is a burning degen with no hit. Ignite does 4/3 of the damage of the initial hit, and ele prolif is triggered when a status ailment is caused by a hit with a skill linked to EP.
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dessloc wrote:
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mattc3303 wrote:
What two bubbles? can u screen shot that for us?
BM with
-INCR burning
-ELE prof
-Chance to ignite

Am guessing the instant fire damage that kills a mob, ignites->proliferates to other mobs. So you have two burning affects going at the same time?

I'm almost positive that neither chance to ignite nor ele proliferation work with unrighteous fire, or at the very least they should not work. Both require a hit to activate, and UF is a burning degen with no hit. Ignite does 4/3 of the damage of the initial hit, and ele prolif is triggered when a status ailment is caused by a hit with a skill linked to EP.


Would you (or anyone reading this) be willing to test this? I don't have Chance to Ignite or Ele Prof, or else I would.

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