BUILD OUT OF COMMISSION....NO LONGER VIABLE DUE TO IDIOTIC CHANGE TO IRON REFLEXES

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HopTortoise wrote:
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Ropa23 wrote:
You are missing out on 80% weapon elemental damage from nodes


and what exactly am i supposed to give up in order to get those?

6+ life nodes?

O.o

are you on an acid trip?

you must be a softcore player.


Damn, chill out man. He was just answering a question.
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HopTortoise wrote:
i have no idea how you guys have such high LA DPS

My LA is 5-linked with LMP (16% quality), Life on hit, Chain, Elemental Damage.

It's at about 450 LA DPS and I'm level 70.

I guess I must be doing something horribly wrong.

I'm in Hardcore. Here is my skill tree:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQAAecFLQ6tFCAXHRjbGS4ZtBo4GlUhYCftKaUs6TIJMn426DpSQKBDnEp9TeNQR1BQVElXDVhjWK9Z81uvXz9gS2EhZKNmnmegah5uqnTtdPF4DXrvhO-HdozPjX6QVZstnrmezacwp4SoGKlurFmsqrXyt7a53b6nwA_AGsbYytPNmNIh0k3ZYd0N3sbfv-dS6mLvDu9O8i_z3fZI-rH8xf6P


My LA at 1100 DPS is 5 linked. It's not that hard, 2 auras (anger and wrath) a decent bow and decent jewelry with + cold/fire/resist and you shall reach it fairly quickly. I am not even using a triple ele bow. Inner force also scales your damage :)
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h311ion wrote:
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AthenaUS wrote:
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h311ion wrote:
Hey Athena, I was wondering what is your current DPS with your skills? I have been looking into the physical cleave duelist builds and it seems like they do more damage. One was in my game last night doing 24k dps at level 70. He linked me his gear and only his weapons were decent. I am level 72 and hardly come close to that. I don't have anything 5L yet either.


I do 1100 LA DPS and 6500 frenzy.

What you need to keep in mind is "sheet DPS" is not the same as "actual DPS". Sheet DPS is what's being shown when you mouse over your talent and actual DPS is what your character does. So LA gets fired with 3 projectiles with LMP, they each hit for 1100 DPS + each one of those projectiles chains 2 times to other mobs. So yea do the math :p scales pretty high pretty quick.


Ele cleave is slow painful and daunting. He will never match the clear speed of an LA archer I promise you. Heck with 500 DPS LA Chain you would crush him :p

You need to focus on the important things,
1.build farming speed/efficiency
2.build survivability
3.build effectiveness

A few numbers moused over your gem does not equate to the above. Just because a candy looks tasty doesn't mean it actually is tasty :p


My LA is doing 1500 on sheet at the moment (Faster Attacks, Life On Hit, LMP). Can't wait to get a 5L and add chain. My Burning Arrow 5000 for single target.

He's physical cleave, not elemental. No one in the group could compare to how fast he was clearing everything. I see what you mean about it adding up from each of the projectiles. I just felt he was still doing more DPS anyways and it showed.


Of course you don't compare your not using chain. You need to get rid of faster attacks and use chain instead. Faster attacks inflates your sheet DPS only. But it terms of actual your doing way way less damage then you would be doing with chain.

You wil also notice your clear speed improvements with chain :)
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AthenaUS wrote:
Of course you don't compare your not using chain. You need to get rid of faster attacks and use chain instead. Faster attacks inflates your sheet DPS only. But it terms of actual your doing way way less damage then you would be doing with chain.

You wil also notice your clear speed improvements with chain :)


Ahhhhh ok, thanks! That makes much more sense. I've never used Chain before, don't even have it, but I'll trade for it really quick and check it out :)
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h311ion wrote:
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AthenaUS wrote:
Of course you don't compare your not using chain. You need to get rid of faster attacks and use chain instead. Faster attacks inflates your sheet DPS only. But it terms of actual your doing way way less damage then you would be doing with chain.

You wil also notice your clear speed improvements with chain :)


Ahhhhh ok, thanks! That makes much more sense. I've never used Chain before, don't even have it, but I'll trade for it really quick and check it out :)


Good stuff, chains are fairly cheap now so obtaining one won't be an issue :)
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AthenaUS wrote:
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Godmatik wrote:
My question still wasn't answered :(

If you love attack speed so much, why pick passive over the extra frenzy charge with merciless bandit?


because 3 frenzy charges for me is MORE then sufficient, I 1 shot white mobs and 2 shots blues, WITHOUT curses, the extra attack speed would be pointless as you are still only hitting things once or twice :P


Then why do you get attack speed bonus for cruel bandit? =/
Having playing this, I 100% regret not taking the extra frenzy charge from Kraityn.

I keep myself capped out on frenzy as much as possible for faster LA spam... An extra frenzy charge would benefit me more than a skillpoint now, because the closest +1 max frenzy charge node is 2 skill points away.

I'm almost tempted to remake.
Last edited by HopTortoise#6758 on Mar 31, 2013, 7:09:27 PM
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HopTortoise wrote:
Having playing this, I 100% regret not taking the extra frenzy charge from Kraityn.

I keep myself capped out on frenzy as much as possible for faster LA spam... An extra frenzy charge would benefit me more than a skillpoint now, because the closest +1 max frenzy charge node is 2 skill points away.

I'm almost tempted to remake.

I've take passive instead of 8% Attack speed.
Now i'm 61 lvl, don't want to leveling again but it's needed...
Will be online 06:00-08:00 (UTC/GMT +4 hours)
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Misogi wrote:
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HopTortoise wrote:
Having playing this, I 100% regret not taking the extra frenzy charge from Kraityn.

I keep myself capped out on frenzy as much as possible for faster LA spam... An extra frenzy charge would benefit me more than a skillpoint now, because the closest +1 max frenzy charge node is 2 skill points away.

I'm almost tempted to remake.

I've take passive instead of 8% Attack speed.
Now i'm 61 lvl, don't want to leveling again but it's needed...


I'm 71 and I 100% regret not taking the frenzy charge.
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HopTortoise wrote:

I'm 71 and I 100% regret not taking the frenzy charge.

1 little mistake...
No, i definitely will start a new Duelist, Three is a lucky number, isn't it? :D
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