BUILD OUT OF COMMISSION....NO LONGER VIABLE DUE TO IDIOTIC CHANGE TO IRON REFLEXES

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AthenaUS wrote:


I think I covered this already but ill elaborate again :).

I went into blood magic fairly early (I didn't rush for it, but I did get it on the way after I hit Iron Grip). You should NOT be 5 linking any ability until end game. You won't even be able to support your skills without using a flask with a 4 link until 3500 health :p

So what I do is use split arrow until mid 30s (while leveling lightning arrow and LMP in the process. When I hit blood magic I keep it to a 3 link until around the 40s. So if your going to use LA, as I stated in my build description, I didn't actually use chain until 50-60 when my life an regen was good. Just use LA, LMP and weapon ele until then. For the first 30-40 levels you WILL have to use flasks regardless. But you should not be using a 5 link till the 60-70s or 4k+ health.

Also do not use faster attacks. Attacking faster eats your health even faster cause your getting more shots fired. You should have enough attack speed with your Passives and a thicket. Faster attacks is overkill.

Frenzy is great for end game cause the 3 charges is huge boost to attack speed allowing you to decimate large packs in seconds with LA
Also chain is a drop, you cannot get it from a quest on any character.


No 5 linking for me, not for a while.

I waited a while for blood magic. Didn't get it right away. Was worried it would end me, but it seems ok.

Faster attacks seemed nice with the +14% damage.

I keep split arrow on backup, I'll give it a whirl.

All in all I'm having a good time and just tore up act 1 boss on cruel without dying, feeling good about it.
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Hey Athena, I was wondering what is your current DPS with your skills? I have been looking into the physical cleave duelist builds and it seems like they do more damage. One was in my game last night doing 24k dps at level 70. He linked me his gear and only his weapons were decent. I am level 72 and hardly come close to that. I don't have anything 5L yet either.
There is a easyer way to do this at start.
Im currently lvl 26 im im hardly ever using any mana flasks wile spaming LA
U said u took the 3 atack speed nodes at the start and then speced out of it, if u had taken the 3 mana per kill nodes near IR it would make your life easier, and u can safely use then until u have 2k+ life for blood magic.

It also means u will have a slower progress in the tree, but that is a minor disadvantadge, considering the possibility to farm ledge/felshrine/docks muchs faster than without LA.
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h311ion wrote:
Hey Athena, I was wondering what is your current DPS with your skills? I have been looking into the physical cleave duelist builds and it seems like they do more damage. One was in my game last night doing 24k dps at level 70. He linked me his gear and only his weapons were decent. I am level 72 and hardly come close to that. I don't have anything 5L yet either.


I do 1100 LA DPS and 6500 frenzy.

What you need to keep in mind is "sheet DPS" is not the same as "actual DPS". Sheet DPS is what's being shown when you mouse over your talent and actual DPS is what your character does. So LA gets fired with 3 projectiles with LMP, they each hit for 1100 DPS + each one of those projectiles chains 2 times to other mobs. So yea do the math :p scales pretty high pretty quick.


Ele cleave is slow painful and daunting. He will never match the clear speed of an LA archer I promise you. Heck with 500 DPS LA Chain you would crush him :p

You need to focus on the important things,
1.build farming speed/efficiency
2.build survivability
3.build effectiveness

A few numbers moused over your gem does not equate to the above. Just because a candy looks tasty doesn't mean it actually is tasty :p
Last edited by AthenaUS#7001 on Mar 30, 2013, 10:04:40 PM
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There is a easyer way to do this at start.
Im currently lvl 26 im im hardly ever using any mana flasks wile spaming LA
U said u took the 3 atack speed nodes at the start and then speced out of it, if u had taken the 3 mana per kill nodes near IR it would make your life easier, and u can safely use then until u have 2k+ life for blood magic.

It also means u will have a slower progress in the tree, but that is a minor disadvantadge, considering the possibility to farm ledge/felshrine/docks muchs faster than without LA.


Doesn't really matter for me as it doesn't take me more then a couple hours to reach level 40 :p

But if your a very slow leveler, do what you think works best for you :)
Last edited by AthenaUS#7001 on Mar 30, 2013, 10:07:24 PM
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AthenaUS wrote:
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h311ion wrote:
Hey Athena, I was wondering what is your current DPS with your skills? I have been looking into the physical cleave duelist builds and it seems like they do more damage. One was in my game last night doing 24k dps at level 70. He linked me his gear and only his weapons were decent. I am level 72 and hardly come close to that. I don't have anything 5L yet either.


I do 1100 LA DPS and 6500 frenzy.

What you need to keep in mind is "sheet DPS" is not the same as "actual DPS". Sheet DPS is what's being shown when you mouse over your talent and actual DPS is what your character does. So LA gets fired with 3 projectiles with LMP, they each hit for 1100 DPS + each one of those projectiles chains 2 times to other mobs. So yea do the math :p scales pretty high pretty quick.


Ele cleave is slow painful and daunting. He will never match the clear speed of an LA archer I promise you. Heck with 500 DPS LA Chain you would crush him :p

You need to focus on the important things,
1.build farming speed/efficiency
2.build survivability
3.build effectiveness

A few numbers moused over your gem does not equate to the above. Just because a candy looks tasty doesn't mean it actually is tasty :p


My LA is doing 1500 on sheet at the moment (Faster Attacks, Life On Hit, LMP). Can't wait to get a 5L and add chain. My Burning Arrow 5000 for single target.

He's physical cleave, not elemental. No one in the group could compare to how fast he was clearing everything. I see what you mean about it adding up from each of the projectiles. I just felt he was still doing more DPS anyways and it showed.
Last edited by h311ion#1868 on Mar 30, 2013, 11:03:56 PM
i have no idea how you guys have such high LA DPS

My LA is 5-linked with LMP (16% quality), Life on hit, Chain, Elemental Damage.

It's at about 450 LA DPS and I'm level 70.

I guess I must be doing something horribly wrong.

I'm in Hardcore. Here is my skill tree:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQAAecFLQ6tFCAXHRjbGS4ZtBo4GlUhYCftKaUs6TIJMn426DpSQKBDnEp9TeNQR1BQVElXDVhjWK9Z81uvXz9gS2EhZKNmnmegah5uqnTtdPF4DXrvhO-HdozPjX6QVZstnrmezacwp4SoGKlurFmsqrXyt7a53b6nwA_AGsbYytPNmNIh0k3ZYd0N3sbfv-dS6mLvDu9O8i_z3fZI-rH8xf6P
Last edited by HopTortoise#6758 on Mar 30, 2013, 11:12:18 PM
You are missing out on 80% weapon elemental damage from nodes
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Ropa23 wrote:
You are missing out on 80% weapon elemental damage from nodes


and what exactly am i supposed to give up in order to get those?

6+ life nodes?

O.o

are you on an acid trip?

you must be a softcore player.
Last edited by HopTortoise#6758 on Mar 31, 2013, 12:15:14 AM
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HopTortoise wrote:
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Ropa23 wrote:
You are missing out on 80% weapon elemental damage from nodes


and what exactly am i supposed to give up in order to get those?

6+ life nodes?

O.o

are you on an acid trip?

you must be a softcore player.


Why are you being a douche? He simply told you why you weren't doing enough DPS as everyone else, you know, the question that you asked. Get your holier than thou attitude out of here if you're going to act like a tool.

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