Leave trading alone, don't waste resources on it

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The_Speculator wrote:
the interaction that I refer to is how players communicate and manage to come to agreement and make a deal when differences exist at first.

obviously there needs to be little to no interaction in simple transactions like buying a few maps, that’s a stupid example. as well as b/o buying and selling, if you believe like everyone should always hit the b/o jn trading then of course interaction means nothing.

another thing is I can tell from responses that the way some of you view trading based on your dismissal of interaction is that you simply want to buy & sell for what you need, but do you try to get them at the best possible price or further, for the purpose of making profit? the latter requires a good degree of interaction - hitting the b/o all the time because thats how you trade or choose to view trading does not mean there should be np interaction or the system sucks. its just YOU having a very narrow mindset and definition of trading and YOU choosing not to experience the full aspect of a typical trading environment. nothing wrong with that either, again who's forcing you yo trade??

and why do ppl keep bringing up trade chat, its a tiny part of trading and not a requirement for anything.

@iamstryker so blame the ppl for not being online and not responding... theres also saturday and sunday to help with timezone difference.


Have you read the outlines of the new trading system proposed by GGG? There wont be any instant automated buyouts and you will still be able to barter with other people. You don't have to be afraid about that.
Last edited by kruemel2222#3103 on Feb 6, 2015, 8:22:12 PM
I am one supporter in a sea of supporters. I don't care to argue or complain. I just want to cast my one opinion toward asking the devs to please do something to make trading better and not supported by a third party.
"No one is forcing you to trade" is a retarded argument. There comes a point in high levels where you simply will not get what you need as drops. You are gear walled. This is why trading is important, and why GGG protects the in-game economy as much as they do. To that end, trading should be as streamlined as possible to minimize player frustration and keep the game enjoyment as high as possible.
Of course the system needs a major overhaul and of course this system is only good for people who trades 22x7.

If you have a lot of stock for sale you can't be efficient making wealth unless you are devoting yourself only to trade.

Also this kind of system encourages auto-post cheats. People wants to play the game and make wealth on the side, not make wealth and be bored as fuck and don't play.

The system needs an overhaul because as AlbinoSaurus said, there is a lot of people that has left the game for that very reason, it is a chore to use and encourages cheating. I am not going to name and shame the techniques but I have seen already many cheats related to trading on this game and it is just because people doesn't want to spend 70% of their gameplay time selling instead of playing. It is a matter of fact and that is why people cheats. Give people what they want on a balanced way and they won't cheat.

FIX ASAP AS PEOPLE HAS BEEN DEMANDING FOR YEARS NOW.

Last edited by chromafunk#7100 on Feb 6, 2015, 9:38:07 PM
Chromafunk, I appreciate your support and that you agree, but "fix it now/asap" isn't realistic right now--at least as far as anyone outside of GGG can tell--because they are focused on Act 4. I'm hoping it will come with Act 4, but part of me knows better than that. I just hope after they release Act 4 that they will focus on addressing some of these things people have been talking about for a long time now: desync, trade, performance optimization, group/guild play, etc.
I just reloaded PoE to give it another go. Unfortunately the convolution that is called 'trade' ruins this game for me. Fixes were promised long ago but never delivered.

To encourage trade, have no in-game facilities, and make players use forum and third party addons is not good enough and simply amateurish.
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Rediron wrote:
I just reloaded PoE to give it another go. Unfortunately the convolution that is called 'trade' ruins this game for me. Fixes were promised long ago but never delivered.

To encourage trade, have no in-game facilities, and make players use forum and third party addons is not good enough and simply amateurish.


Have you attempted to use the 3rd party sites\programs? I can understand frustration if the system isn't working for you, but if you simple dismiss it because it is 3rd party that seems a little too dismissive.

The first 100 trades I probably did came from the party boards or (dare I say it) the trade channels.
https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285

FeelsBadMan

Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF.
My viewpoint is very simple to understand; and I've seen it many times in various forms across the forums and through the years.

When there is a simple, safe way to trade I fear I will rejoin PoE and sink many hours (and more dollars) into the game.

I like the game - very much. But until something is done about trade it is just not for me.

That's all.
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AlbinosaurusRex wrote:
"No one is forcing you to trade" is a retarded argument. There comes a point in high levels where you simply will not get what you need as drops. You are gear walled.
This is like saying you can't play in a race without a working keyboard. I mean, technically, of course you can, and you could even get ultraluck and have all the items you want drop. The point isn't whether it can be done or not; it's that you'd be deliberately holding yourself back.
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Rediron wrote:
My viewpoint is very simple to understand; and I've seen it many times in various forms across the forums and through the years.

When there is a simple, safe way to trade I fear I will rejoin PoE and sink many hours (and more dollars) into the game.

I like the game - very much. But until something is done about trade it is just not for me.

That's all.


Your viewpoint doesn't state a single reason why the current system doesn't work for you or your playstyle, in addition how is there not a safe and simple way to trade?

Go find a game that is as complicated as poe and doesn't use any 3rd party sites or resources to play it, then come back and let us know so we can look at that game (you won't find a game that doesn't require 3rd party sites for at least some aspects of the game)

If you like the game very much trading isn't that complicated, its safe and easy to do, until you can present a reason why other then "i have to use 3rd party sites\applications" then GGG can't begin to develop a solution.


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As for no one forcing people to trade, tis true people want a self found league (i don't support a non-paid self found league) However, using well you don't have to trade therefore the current system is fine isn't the direction I would go either.
https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285

FeelsBadMan

Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF.

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