Leave trading alone, don't waste resources on it

Fuck those item shop threads, they're awkward to post items in and it's next to impossible to use them without 3rd party site. Why are you so against better and faster trading system? I have limited time for game and I want to kill stuff, not set up shop, spam trade chat and browse through 3rd party websites.
Last edited by osesek#2510 on Feb 16, 2015, 2:48:32 PM
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AlbinosaurusRex wrote:
that's how I've read 99% of Goetzjam's counter-"arguments."
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AlbinosaurusRex wrote:
His previous argument about "all modern PCs... blah, blah, blah"
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AlbinosaurusRex wrote:
I can't believe Goetz would propose otherwise
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AlbinosaurusRex wrote:
Goetz asserts convenience is automatically bad. Somehow.
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AlbinosaurusRex wrote:
Many have tried this approach, and people like Goetz all respond the same way to it: One person's experience doesn't count.
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AlbinosaurusRex wrote:
The most repeated and flawed thing Goetz has used in defending the status quo was trying to argue that "this will never change, stop trying."
Who?
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ScrotieMcB wrote:
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AlbinosaurusRex wrote:
that's how I've read 99% of Goetzjam's counter-"arguments."
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AlbinosaurusRex wrote:
His previous argument about "all modern PCs... blah, blah, blah"
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AlbinosaurusRex wrote:
I can't believe Goetz would propose otherwise
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AlbinosaurusRex wrote:
Goetz asserts convenience is automatically bad. Somehow.
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AlbinosaurusRex wrote:
Many have tried this approach, and people like Goetz all respond the same way to it: One person's experience doesn't count.
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AlbinosaurusRex wrote:
The most repeated and flawed thing Goetz has used in defending the status quo was trying to argue that "this will never change, stop trying."
Who?


well his signature says "un-official PoE\GGG Fanboy".
but I wonder what an "official" fanboy is? do you get a shirt and some free MTX?
if so, sign me up :)
Alva: I'm sweating like a hog in heat
Shadow: That was fun
I find it hard to believe that anyone can be fine with the current scrolling trade chat system that PoE has going for it's 'trading system'.

Poe.trade shouldn't even be counted in this discussion, it's a fanbase saving GGGs ass.

PoE's trade system is one of the worst I've seen. And Chris stating that trade changes are incoming for more than a year is even more embarrasing.

And stop picking on AlbinosaurusRex, goetzjam would claim that red is blue, if GGG said so.
„I don't give a fuck if it was his tenth anniversary with his goddamn neckbeard...“
„If they think I'm going to let them sweep this pizza guy thing under the rug...“
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@jk I can't put official in my signature unless I am told I can do it. I was told to add fanboy by someone so I did.

Not sure what an official one gets. I know an un-official one pays for supporter packs.

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Odoakar wrote:
I find it hard to believe that anyone can be fine with the current scrolling trade chat system that PoE has going for it's 'trading system'.

Poe.trade shouldn't even be counted in this discussion, it's a fanbase saving GGGs ass.

PoE's trade system is one of the worst I've seen. And Chris stating that trade changes are incoming for more than a year is even more embarrasing.

And stop picking on AlbinosaurusRex, goetzjam would claim that red is blue, if GGG said so.


I think what is more embarrassing is that you can't spell embarrassing. In regards to saying red is blue is GGG said so no that isn't the case. My post are from my perspective, not GGG's.

Also the trade system is much more then trade chat spam, if you can't see that you haven't read any of the discussion at hand in this thread.

@osesek you are in the same boat as rex, refuse to use the system, yet for some reason are compelled to complain about it. It takes much less time to list items with procurement then it does to post lengthy replies in this thread, yet rex chooses to complain. He can't even be bothered to use the system he is complaining about to give valid feedback.

In regards to your limited time, that is an issue you will have to figure out how to work out. Even if an AH were to be added, you'd still have to list your items there, while that may seem like less "work" it still takes time, in the meantime you can use the current system and try to provide valid feedback rather then just complaining that you have limited time.
https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285

FeelsBadMan

Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF.
Last edited by goetzjam#3084 on Feb 16, 2015, 3:00:17 PM
oh come on Goetzjam! he who pays for MTXes and supporter packs, should get the full-fledged "official fanboy" status!
also, an "I <3 GGG" bumper sticker would be nice :)

on-topic:
trade. meh.
Alva: I'm sweating like a hog in heat
Shadow: That was fun
Last edited by johnKeys#6083 on Feb 16, 2015, 3:07:33 PM
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goetzjam wrote:
@jk I can't put official in my signature unless I am told I can do it. I was told to add fanboy by someone so I did.

Not sure what an official one gets. I know an un-official one pays for supporter packs.

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Odoakar wrote:
I find it hard to believe that anyone can be fine with the current scrolling trade chat system that PoE has going for it's 'trading system'.

Poe.trade shouldn't even be counted in this discussion, it's a fanbase saving GGGs ass.

PoE's trade system is one of the worst I've seen. And Chris stating that trade changes are incoming for more than a year is even more embarrasing.

And stop picking on AlbinosaurusRex, goetzjam would claim that red is blue, if GGG said so.


I think what is more embarrassing is that you can't spell embarrassing. In regards to saying red is blue is GGG said so no that isn't the case. My post are from my perspective, not GGG's.

Also the trade system is much more then trade chat spam, if you can't see that you haven't read any of the discussion at hand in this thread.

@osesek you are in the same boat as rex, refuse to use the system, yet for some reason are compelled to complain about it. It takes much less time to list items with procurement then it does to post lengthy replies in this thread, yet rex chooses to complain. He can't even be bothered to use the system he is complaining about to give valid feedback.

In regards to your limited time, that is an issue you will have to figure out how to work out. Even if an AH were to be added, you'd still have to list your items there, while that may seem like less "work" it still takes time, in the meantime you can use the current system and try to provide valid feedback rather then just complaining that you have limited time.


You would probably be surprised that there are people playing this game who are not native english speakers. I know 4 languages, how many do you know? And with these kind of personal attacks you are just proving that you don't have anything substantial to offer to any discussion that is remotely critical of GGG.

What trade system except that trade chat has been made by GGG? You reffer to forum threads where you put your stuff and and then people click on those threads and go and check each of the posted items until they find something they like?

I don't consider Poe.trade as a 'Path of exile trading system'. It's a 3rd party facilitator for something that is not in the game.
„I don't give a fuck if it was his tenth anniversary with his goddamn neckbeard...“
„If they think I'm going to let them sweep this pizza guy thing under the rug...“
No mod action. Business as usual.
Last edited by Odoakar#1827 on Feb 16, 2015, 3:28:14 PM
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Odoakar wrote:

You would probably be surprised that there are people playing this game who are not native english speakers. I know 4 languages, how many do you know? And with these kind of personal attacks you are just proving that you don't have anything substantial to offer to any discussion that is remotely critical of GGG.

What trade system except that trade chat has been made by GGG? You reffer to forum threads where you put your stuff and and then people click on those threads and go and check each of the posted items until they find something they like?

I don't consider Poe.trade as a 'Path of exile trading system'. It's a 3rd party facilitator for something that is not in the game.


I speak one language, not that it really matters. This wasn't a personal attack, but an observation. I actually have been critical of GGG in the past, simply making this generalized statement because this particular issue I am not for changing is asinine. I've submitted arguments and counter arguments to this exact thread, but by all means judge what I've said on the very last thing you read.

The forum threads are searchable you know, if you don't like to use the search options on the forums poe.trade will search and display them for you better.

Believe it or not the trades actually still happen in game, its only finding (and listing) that happen outside of the game for the most part. Feel free to add something new to the discussion rather then make blanket statements without any facts or personal observations, your statements here have been mentioned before and discussed before.

https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285

FeelsBadMan

Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF.
Trade chat is laughably bad this day and age. Can't believe GGG still uses for as long as this game has been out.
Standard Forever
To everyone who is championing the unique non-in-game approach of PoE:

Seriously, just go and spend an hour or two playing one of the many games listed, on this very thread, with in-game auction houses. Report back how it's completely destroyed the game, with pictures and analysis. Thanks. Here, I'll get you started on what is possibly the most wrecked-by-auction-house and soon-to-die game of the lot:

http://www.wowwiki.com/Auction_House

Disclaimer: I trade, and it stings every time, particularly the multiple different steps outside of the game for what should be a seamless in-game process; but perhaps a little less than the continued silence on a new trade system, since GGG last posted about it before cars were invented (intentional hyperbole). It took me days to get the last item I bought. There was no other alternative for the particular item so it all rested on being able to get in sync with one seller.

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