Snapshotting

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Xasrai wrote:

The clear gain is this: 1 Single defensive 6L'd Undying Evangelist isn't the equivalent of 1/4 of 4. Having 4 of them benefits you not much more than a single one. Being able to rid yourself of 3 redundant Evangelists BY SWAPPING OUT YOUR GEMS AND SNAPSHOTTING YOUR EVANGELIST means that you can INCREASE your DPS while getting more than 1/4 of the protection that 4 Evangelists would offer. That is a net increase of >25% in defence AND and increase of 75% in offence. 3 Offence + 1 Defence is >100% because that defence doesn't scale with more evangelists.

You know it, you just choose to ignore this reality. It's bullshit, GGG has spoken and is changing it.

Deal with it.

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robmafia wrote:

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Malone wrote:

beeing able to summon 1 defensiv , 2 offensiv and 1 utility spectre is by far superior to 4 defensiv or 4 offensiv zpectre. Period.

explain.

you won't. because you can't.

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Malone wrote:

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robmafia wrote:

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Malone wrote:

beeing able to summon 1 defensiv , 2 offensiv and 1 utility spectre is by far superior to 4 defensiv or 4 offensiv zpectre. Period.

explain.

you won't. because you can't.

it's a very complex concept, called synergy. Very unlikely but if you grow up, you may understand t.

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robmafia wrote:

...what in the hell are you talking about?

HOW IS THAT A NET GAIN? what you just said is refuted by simply having 4 offensive spectres!

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Malone wrote:

not sure it is worth it to lose my time with a beginner troll. Try to go beyond lvl 2 ( seems the limit you reach for most of your chars ) and you may discover some interesting game mechanism.

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Xasrai wrote:

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Mark_GGG wrote:

To be fair, the very next sentence is

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Raising a spectre and swapping out supports to raise a spectre of a different type allows spectres raised from the same gem to benefit from an entirely different set of support gems.

- as an example of another advantage gained from snapshotting.

how is that an advantage?!

either way, one has the same amount of spectres with the same amount of supports! there's no net gain. there's no downside that's bypassed - except boredom.

monotony aside - what difference does it make if you have 4 5L spectres with the same supports vs 4 5L spectres with individual supports - as long as the amount of supports is equal to or lesser than the available slots?

the only gain i see from it is that it's way less boring to mix it up than to have 4 evangelists or 4 tentacle creations or 4 burning miscreations or 4 archer statues or 4 colossal skeletons or 4 necromancers or 4 snakes or 4 bears or etc.

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Xasrai wrote:

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robmafia wrote:

...what in the hell are you talking about?

HOW IS THAT A NET GAIN? what you just said is refuted by simply having 4 offensive spectres!

No. If you can have 4 offensive spectres, each puts out a total of 25% dps for a total of 100%.
With me so far?

By removing one spectre it drops to 75%.

If you have 4 Evangelists, removing one of them reduces your defensive capabilities by... nothing. Removing 2 of them reduces your defences by? That's RIGHT, NOTHING. And removing the third reduces the defensive capabilities by, you guessed it: NOTHING.

So 1 Evangelist is as capable as 4 Evangelists.

So, By having 1 Evangelist, and 3 Offensive spectres, you actually get 100% of the defensive capabilities AND 75% of the offensive capabilities for a total of 175% offence + defence capabilities (As compared to going all of one or the other.)

That's the net gain.