Build of the Week Season 2 Episode 10: Snapshotting

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Splift wrote:

Not true. Summoners are still hella strong without snapshot. On the last ladder I facerolled my way right to 78 maps with terrible gear and no snapshotting even killing bosses that most other builds would run in fear from fully geared.

Lie.


Funny video, epecially trap+mine thing, that was tested not to actually work. Great job on adding fuel to the fire of unnecesarry hate for ingenuitive people. God this feels like bullying more than anything GGG has ever done...


P.S. Hoping summoner uniques will be reworked to be usable. Only summoner uniques have double drawbacks - awful stats for a character and mindbogling minion drawback with only sometimes good buff. Montregul's comes to mind - only perfect one has a possobility of usage without snapshot - and sill probably won't be used.

As soon as the exploits like snapshotting and other are gone, they should be able to start balancing the legit mechanics more.

How are you supposed to balance the game properly when 50% of your players are going to double the intended damage with expliots afterwards.

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Sneakypaw wrote:

As soon as the exploits like snapshotting and other are gone, they should be able to start balancing the legit mechanics more.

How are you supposed to balance the game properly when 50% of your players are going to double the intended damage with expliots afterwards.

That is what I'm talking about GGG - misinformation for teh masses - trap+mine doesn't provide the bonus because it is calculated on detonation and not on mine cast.

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Allnamestaken wrote:

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Sneakypaw wrote:

As soon as the exploits like snapshotting and other are gone, they should be able to start balancing the legit mechanics more.

How are you supposed to balance the game properly when 50% of your players are going to double the intended damage with expliots afterwards.

That is what I'm talking about GGG - misinformation for teh masses - trap+mine doesn't provide the bonus because it is calculated on detonation and not on mine cast.

That's why you use the trap belt. You detonate the mine to get the buffed trap, then switch out the gear before the trap auto-detonates.

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Charan wrote:

Well done, Chris.

I know this wasn't an easy decision for you guys, but I sincerely believe it was the right one. In the end, it'll just be one more means of filtering those who are here for the game itself, and those who are just here to faceroll everything using someone else's flavour of the week.

Totally support this. +1! ϵ( 'Θ' )϶

I know there are some people who will miss the extra power that snapshotting gave them, but will anyone actually miss the process itself? The swapping around of gear, gems, passive skills and whatever else before you actually go out and kill anything? My two highest level characters are an elemental spectral thrower (lots of auras) and a flame totem marauder with the blood magic keystone (no auras at all). It's really nice to be able to just race into combat with the marauder without spending a minute buffing first.

Overall, I'd say GGG take a fairly generous approach to nerfs. They signal things they intend to change early, they don't take away any accomplishments from those who exploit unintended mechanics (like the infamous Cast on Death super-minions). The next challenge leagues aren't till August so there are still a couple of months to enjoy snapshotting your way to uberness.

There are probably some issues with summoners in particular that need looking at completely unrelated to snapshotting (such as survivability of minions in both the early game and very late game).

Need a buff for summoners, ALL ITEM for summoning is USELESS without snapshot
I see many people asked the removing of snapshotting but with snapshot i have 18k dps per zombie, i have 8 zombi
8x18 = 144k dps

WOWOWOWOWOWOWOW 144K DPS NEED BALANCE NEED BALANCE IS TOO POWERFULL

but many build who do 700k + is LEGIT

HMMMM OK

The aura snapshot must be ramain the same.

If you remove the aura snapshot then we cant run many auras in low life builds

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crinaya wrote:

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Allnamestaken wrote:

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Sneakypaw wrote:

As soon as the exploits like snapshotting and other are gone, they should be able to start balancing the legit mechanics more.

How are you supposed to balance the game properly when 50% of your players are going to double the intended damage with expliots afterwards.

That is what I'm talking about GGG - misinformation for teh masses - trap+mine doesn't provide the bonus because it is calculated on detonation and not on mine cast.

That's why you use the trap belt. You detonate the mine to get the buffed trap, then switch out the gear before the trap auto-detonates.

YOU DO NOT GET THOSE BUFFS. It calculates bonuses from supports on DETONATION, if there is no trap+mine when the trap detonates yo uwill NOT get the bonuses. This is a lie that was propogated by some loser streamer to get views some time ago, while screaming about OP summoners while there are far more OP builds out there. And now GGG themselves put it in a video...how can developers do that I have no idea.

definately a good thing to remove that shit from the game...

And a BIG LOL about QQ Summoners... Man you can clear almost all maps in the game without any snapshot, my lvl 91 summoner was facerolling all the game content with just Grasps snapshot.
And Atziri fight become a joke as soon as they introduced desecrate/convocation so you can resummon your zombies instantly and move them from blast when you need... ( if you don't snasphot ofc, if you do it's game over )