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Kyu wrote:
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livingdeadbeat wrote:
I'm aware. But how many people using it do you think would look through every single one of Chris's posts just to find this? Probably not many.
An actual visible post would be a lot more beneficial.
use dev tracker on exilepro or any other poe-related website. helps a bunch.
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Posted bysidtherat#1310on Aug 13, 2013, 6:26:09 AM
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jsn006 wrote:
SHUT UP about other games, and stick to POE
Why? What makes it so different? It's the same thing.
Game A (D2): Has an item that can be used to snapshot.
Game B (PoE): Has an item that can be used to snapshot.
Both Game A and Game B's snapshotting do essentially the same thing. Using something while not equipped.
Player in Game B, in this case you, claims it's an exploit and never intended. However, Game A was fully aware of it and accepted it as a mechanic.
What makes it a definite exploit in Game B, but it isn't in Game A? If it was always an exploit it would always be an exploit. Which it wasn't.
So, as long as the developers never accepted it as an exploit there is no reason why it would be an obvious exploit.
The developers now say it is an exploit, which is fine, it's an exploit, okay. That's cool. I get it. But that doesn't give anyone the right to start insulting people as exploiters before any statement was ever made by developers on their stance on it. Because it being an exploit is not obvious when it wasn't one in other games either.
The reason people are annoyed is because GGG never said anything about it. They never really made a stance on it. So people started making builds around it. Why? Because they did so in other games too. Everyone used Call to Arms in D2. It was fine there, they didn't expect it to suddenly be considered an exploit here. Now people have their entire builds crushed.
In D2 CTA was used as a weapon swap... but the items were still technically equipped... Alpha Howl is being taken off entirely while still getting the bonus? Exploit, plain and simple...
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Posted byMachone#3898on Aug 13, 2013, 6:26:31 AM
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Kusqt wrote:
The reason matua tipuna was nerfed is because people were gettin 1000 million dps and 100000 million ES using it (not sure how the bug worked)
THAT was truly a bug.
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/383950
People were unequiping the shield and continuing to receive the 10% to auras buff. I don't know about you but that sounds mighty similar to the current fix to Alpha Howl.
Reposting this since its apparently still relevant to the discussion. GGG has been consistent with their behavior as seen in the shield matua tipuna. Just because it takes time for them to get the fixes done does not mean they endorse them. They are still exploits that will be fixed.
It doesn't matter what OTHER games did. I haven't seen any evidence that GGG wants their game to use the swapping exploit (or whatever you want to call it).
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Posted byiamstryker#5952on Aug 13, 2013, 6:26:31 AM
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jsn006 wrote:
Ah, so we're down to the level of insults. All right. I'm not going to bother. You have yet to reply with an actual argument.
Hahaha, thats funny. your only argument was 'other games have it so its ok, and its not an exploit if i dont think it is so its ok also'
It was NEVER intended to be so, and it got fixed as a result. That is the only argument one should ever put up.
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Posted byjsn006#2582on Aug 13, 2013, 6:28:06 AMBanned
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Kyu wrote:
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I'm aware. But how many people using it do you think would look through every single one of Chris's posts just to find this? Probably not many.
An actual visible post would be a lot more beneficial.
People went through the trouble of paying the exalts to buy Alphas Howl and do the exploit over and over again.....but they couldn't take the time to message or e-mail the devs and ask if it was an accepted mechanic??
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Posted byiamstryker#5952on Aug 13, 2013, 6:30:09 AM
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Machone wrote:
In D2 CTA was used as a weapon swap... but the items were still technically equipped... Alpha Howl is being taken off entirely while still getting the bonus? Exploit, plain and simple...
Good point. I suppose you still sort of had it equipped. Though, never really actively used. So it's another one of those split opinion type scenarios. Depends on if you consider the weapon swap slots equipped or not. The game doesn't really consider them equipped since you don't get the spell power, strength etc. from these items, but at the same time you still sort of have them equipped. But you kinda don't at the same time. CTA wouldn't be usable by builds that actually utilized weapon swaps with something else that isn't CTA, though.
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jsn006 wrote:
Hahaha, thats funny. your only argument was 'other games have it so its ok, and its not an exploit if i dont think it is so its ok also'
It was NEVER intended to be so, and it got fixed as a result. That is the only argument one should ever put up.
Not quite my argument. My argument was that other games have it, so we don't know for sure if it's a feature or a exploit here until stated by GGG with a fix. Which they're doing now. So it's all good. We know it's an exploit in PoE.
All I said was that I find it silly to instantly consider something an "obvious exploit" when a lot of people are used to things like these as actual game mechanics. I don't know why you're flipping off on me for something like that.
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Posted byKyu#2503on Aug 13, 2013, 6:30:58 AM
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Will the old art be removed from the client? Otherwise that's a lotta space doing nothing.
they said the patch would reduce 1GB of the game, so I assume it will be removed.
IGN: Pumar, Pumam , PumarR , PumaPunch , PumaWander , PumaCleave, PumaSlams
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Posted byropumar#7984on Aug 13, 2013, 6:37:01 AM
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sounds like a very good news :)
thanx for the game, , , and sleep in horizontal position :)
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Posted byhrafnain#4411on Aug 13, 2013, 6:38:54 AM
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Kyu wrote:
Not quite my argument. My argument was that other games have it, so we don't know for sure if it's a feature or a exploit here. Read again.
Why do you insist on other games having a bearing on this? /facepalm
Its an exploit. Devs stated it, anyone with a bit of common sense can tell himself 'am i really meant to fetch another helm with the same links sockets and colors' and swap it out after casting auras with this and still keep the same aura stats?'
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Posted byjsn006#2582on Aug 13, 2013, 6:38:57 AMBanned
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Fixed an abuse case where auras would maintain bonuses from equipment if you changed out of that equipment in town. Upon changing area, auras will set themselves to the current level from your equipment. Other similar abuse cases will be fixed in the future.
i hope this will also fix the blood magic enabler :)
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Posted byKagami45#5582on Aug 13, 2013, 6:40:27 AM
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