{3.2.0} Spectral Gods: [Life Based Spectre/Golem Hybrid Summoner | Clear Speed | End Game Bossing]

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PuLaSkI wrote:

Once again, great job man!

Thanks!

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AdmiralCarambas wrote:

is this build HC playable ?

Yes, if you make a few gear adjustments. Leather belt or Immortal flesh, high hp bone helmet, bloodgrip at all times. 7k hp is possible also run enfeeble/temp chains as curses.

Running frost sents will make things a lot more safe too.

I'll make an FAQ section for HC.

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aplsin wrote:

I don't think GMP or any projectile supports are necessary for Solar Guards and they don't affect the beam which is an awesome part of these spectres and can easily one-shot most packs on their own. You should try out RS + Minion Damage + Spell Echo + Ele Focus + Inc AoE/Conc Effect + Controlled Destruction

The laser beam has an internal cooldown of about 8 seconds or so. That down time of waiting for solar guards will really start to add up if you only rely on just their laser beams. Fireball is needed as a filler.

From my observations, it seems like the first pack of a map gets gunned down by the laser beam then the next 2-3 packs laser is on cool down. They then use fireball in the mean time while at the fourth pack they use the laser beam again.

I even tried running The Flow Untethered and the laser beam still seems slow to come back.

Laser beam has a flat damage of [2085 to 3128 Fire Damage] and that around the level 60 values I think. More then enough to already one shot packs with just a few damage supports.

very nice, but i can not open the tree page.

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mattc3303 wrote:

The laser beam has an internal cooldown of about 8 seconds or so. That down time of waiting for solar guards will really start to add up if you only rely on just their laser beams. Fireball is needed as a filler.

I'm very aware of that and I certainly don't rely on just their laser beams, Inc AoE affects the fireballs too and 4 spectres with spell echo is a lot of big fireball explosions even without GMP. Another good thing about using Inc AoE over GMP is that Conc Effect is a better switch in gem for bosses than slower proj or pierce.

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aplsin wrote:

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mattc3303 wrote:

The laser beam has an internal cooldown of about 8 seconds or so. That down time of waiting for solar guards will really start to add up if you only rely on just their laser beams. Fireball is needed as a filler.

I'm very aware of that and I certainly don't rely on just their laser beams, Inc AoE affects the fireballs too and 4 spectres with spell echo is a lot of big fireball explosions even without GMP. Another good thing about using Inc AoE over GMP is that Conc Effect is a better switch in gem for bosses than slower proj or pierce.

Con effect is a blue gem.

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Lord_Tensai wrote:

Con effect is a blue gem.

So is Inc AoE so it's no problem using it as a switch in gem.

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supwang wrote:

very nice, but i can not open the tree page.

The official tree? I just opened it, can you screenshot the problem?

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aplsin wrote:

I'm very aware of that and I certainly don't rely on just their laser beams, Inc AoE affects the fireballs too and 4 spectres with spell echo is a lot of big fireball explosions even without GMP. Another good thing about using Inc AoE over GMP is that Conc Effect is a better switch in gem for bosses than slower proj or pierce.

Wait a inc AOE singular fireball is enough to cover an entire pack for you? I'll have to give this a shot.

My biggest concern is that stragglers will be left over as your cone of attack is smaller without GMP. If I am shield charging through the solar guards maybe has .5-2s time to attack before they get teleported away.

Ok, I just looked at your character profile and I think I understand your perspective. As a midnight bargain LL summoner you naturally just go at a slower pace then a build focused entirely on moving as quick as possible.

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mattc3303 wrote:

Wait a inc AOE singular fireball is enough to cover an entire pack for you? I'll have to give this a shot.

My biggest concern is that stragglers will be left over as your cone of attack is smaller without GMP. If I am shield charging through the solar guards maybe has .5-2s time to attack before they get teleported away.

Ok, I just looked at your character profile and I think I understand your perspective. As a midnight bargain LL summoner you naturally just go at a slower pace then a build focused entirely on moving as quick as possible.

I wouldn't say a singular fireball is enough for an entire pack because it explodes on the first enemy it hits but a singular fireball from each of our four spectres is enough for most packs.

You're right that you're probably moving faster than me. I can't shield charge and running straight through a pack can get me killed if I'm unlucky, when I want to go fast I usually just run around the packs rather than through them.

There are so many options regarding support gems for spectres and in the end it probably just comes down to personal taste and what build and maps you're using them with, just thought I'd chime in with my personal favorite after having tried a lot of different setups. I mostly run high tier maps and guardians with some shaped Racecourse and Vault when I just want to relax.

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aplsin wrote:

I wouldn't say a singular fireball is enough for an entire back because it explodes on the first enemy it hits but a singular fireball from each of our four spectres is enough for most packs.

You're right that you're probably moving faster than me. I can't shield charge and running straight through a pack can get me killed if I'm unlucky, when I want to go fast I usually just run around the packs rather than through them.

There are so many options regarding support gems for spectres and in the end it probably just comes down to personal taste and what build and maps you're using them with, just thought I'd chime in with my personal favorite after having tried a lot of different setups. I mostly run high tier maps and guardians with some shaped Racecourse and Vault when I just want to relax.

Cool. Thanks for your input. I welcome any other thoughts or criticism. It keeps me thinking and trying new things. Yeah spectre is like 100 builds in 1. Every monster has a variety of ways to build.

Hello!
First let me say thank you for this guild. i love the build!
i've never used specters before, it was either SRS or Zombies for me.
ive looked at PathOfBuilding, and i imported my character.
but i can't get close to the numbers you have for DPS?

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Sophira/characters
"SRSFarmzor"

Could you give me some advice?
Next season i'm definatly going to try this build again, but with less evation based i think :P

seeing how es and armour is halfed

with what little extra stats have left, should I stack es, evasion or Armour?

thanks