{3.2.0} Spectral Gods: [Life Based Spectre/Golem Hybrid Summoner | Clear Speed | End Game Bossing]

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LaplaceNoMa wrote:
Hey there,

Wanted to drop in with some info, mayhaps someone can test it.

In act 5 Oriath Square, which exists BEFORE you kill Avarius, there are mobs called 'Flame Mother' - if you're currently looking at this website's background, she's the woman with some sort of circular container in hands on the very left, to the left of some nun with a cup.

They throw some kind of bouncing fire projectiles, and I remember occasionally using them when leveling one of my attempts at spectre necro, because act3 flame sentinels died to a single hit by then; and I want to say they were damn BRUTAL, obliterating literally everything. Bit later I started using Prayer Guardians before I reached Kitava's heralds, and even though they had similar projectiles and higher lvl, they seemed to deal like half the damage of flame mothers. Unfortunately, after you kill Avarius, it seems that those mobs can't be found anywhere else - I didn't find them in any of the post-Avarius a5 locations, act 10 also seemed to miss them.

If anyone has some friend who is in act 5 and hasn't killed Avarius yet, you can try raising them in his game and then searching for a map to desecrate them as high lvl. I'm not sure what's the matter with them, but they were dealing RIDICULOUS damage in a5.


You can find higher level versions of them in A10 in The Ravaged Square zone as Kiln Mothers, they got basically the same exact skills, resists, and scaling.
http://poedb.tw/us/mon.php?n=Kiln+Mother

Interesting part of those Kiln Mother mobs is I spent probably like 10 minutes just desecrating with Spell Echo linked on it in that zone and they don't show up. Have to go around the zone and kill the actual mobs themselves to raise them as Spectres.

Goatmen Fire-Raisers seem like a better alternative since they seem to have a skill that works in melee, medium range, and long range.
https://github.com/Mattc33/Necronomicon/blob/master/UndeadLibrary.md#goatman-fire-raiser
Last edited by reciprocate#3631 on Sep 7, 2017, 1:42:48 AM
WHOEVER wanted TEMPLE SCHOLARS i found t15 ones in OVERGROWN RUINS...

http://imgur.com/a/mh7dI

maybe u can test them now.. i didnt even do the desecrete trick to get them

ALSO got tukahoma vanguards from OverGrown Ruins no desecrete trick and wickerman using desecrete trick.. seems like abyss is op for fire specters they spawn solar eles too could probably solar guard trick it... also i really want some one to test temple scholars... and after talking with AN RF and Scorching ray pro the best gems for vangaurds/wickerman combo would be ele focus rs minion damage burning damage efficacy and minion res and totem support..

also upon researching incinerate it seems like the best gems for temple scholars would be rs minion damage controlled destruction ele focus faster projectiles GMP... swap gmp for pierce for bosses

the reason you wouldnt do spell echo is it doesnt effect incinerate

EDIT:!!!!!!! AFTER testing the temple scholars are squishy af died in t15 boss fight
Last edited by khawk3lite#5198 on Sep 7, 2017, 3:10:59 AM
Found some interesting alternative mobs against Cannibal Fire-Eaters and Templar Scholars. Host Adders and Night Adders which are easily accessible at Northern Forest in Act 7. They seem to have same exact mods, they do fire totem like Cannibal Fire-Eater that repeats several times per cast and shows to have some reasonable damage base. Ran them in a T8 Shaped Channel using Raise+Min Damage+Echo+Ele Focus+GMP and they did well enough for general clear, but I think their boss damage could be better (albeit not terrible). Echo is probably not going to do much since it's off Flame Totem, it SHOULDN'T increase their casts per sec. Then again Multistrike increases attacks on things like Cyclone, and Ice Crash for minions that have those.

http://poedb.tw/us/mon.php?n=Host+Adder
http://poedb.tw/us/mon.php?n=Night+Adder
Last edited by reciprocate#3631 on Sep 7, 2017, 3:29:44 AM
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reciprocate wrote:
Found some interesting alternative mobs against Cannibal Fire-Eaters and Templar Scholars. Host Adders and Night Adders which are easily accessible at Northern Forest in Act 7. They seem to have same exact mods, they do fire totem like Cannibal Fire-Eater that repeats several times per cast and shows to have some reasonable damage base. Ran them in a T8 Shaped Channel using Raise+Min Damage+Echo+Ele Focus+GMP and they did well enough for general clear, but I think their boss damage could be better (albeit not terrible). Echo is probably not going to do much since it's off Flame Totem, it SHOULDN'T increase their casts per sec. Then again Multistrike increases attacks on things like Cyclone, and Ice Crash for minions that have those.

http://poedb.tw/us/mon.php?n=Host+Adder
http://poedb.tw/us/mon.php?n=Night+Adder


I just tried these and they got killed REALLY easy vs t6 harbinger mobs... i then went and got solar guards and they killed them easy and none died
So I cannot get Canninal Fire-Eater in any area outside maps? Wanna see them smelt Kitava's face
Last edited by wiwigvn#7566 on Sep 7, 2017, 6:01:56 AM
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khawk3lite wrote:
WHOEVER wanted TEMPLE SCHOLARS i found t15 ones in OVERGROWN RUINS...

http://imgur.com/a/mh7dI

also upon researching incinerate it seems like the best gems for temple scholars would be rs minion damage controlled destruction ele focus faster projectiles GMP... swap gmp for pierce for bosses

the reason you wouldnt do spell echo is it doesnt effect incinerate

EDIT:!!!!!!! AFTER testing the temple scholars are squishy af died in t15 boss fight


They aren't squishy at all they can leech life back and they are pretty tanky, and spell echo affects incinerate and incinerate pierces it self. You should use Necromantic Aegis + The Unshattered + The Scourge
Last edited by trementoz#7050 on Sep 7, 2017, 6:14:09 AM
A quick question, why are we using "Elemental equilibrium", Since we are using the spectres as the sole damage dealers with lets say fire damage.
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Delpnaz wrote:

A quick question, why are we using "Elemental equilibrium", Since we are using the spectres as the sole damage dealers with lets say fire damage.
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Your minions cannot trigger EE but you can. So hitting monsters with lightning damage is a free -50/-50 fire/cold res. I suggest reading the necronomicon is has this kind of information and more.
Necronomicon: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617098
Build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/409940
Summoner Dischord: https://discord.gg/XwWdSUa
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/zhoukon
Last edited by mattc3303#7526 on Sep 7, 2017, 7:15:08 AM
Do we have a consensus on whether cannibal fire eaters or tukohama's (without the shield) is better single target dps
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Aegy wrote:

Do we have a consensus on whether cannibal fire eaters or tukohama's (without the shield) is better single target dps


Without hard numbers from PoB. We can't be certain.
Necronomicon: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617098
Build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/409940
Summoner Dischord: https://discord.gg/XwWdSUa
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/zhoukon

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