{3.2.0} Spectral Gods: [Life Based Spectre/Golem Hybrid Summoner | Clear Speed | End Game Bossing]

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Suxariki wrote:
i have a question, is it realy worth to buy a helmet with resistances and same amount of shield instead of Vertex to change Purity of elements for vitality for example(i am using Envy instead of it atm)


Yeah thats is a good alternative. Vertex was just a cheap way to get 340+es and +1 with easier time resummoning zombies. Since minion res is now easily capped after 2.5 patch you can just pick up vitality instead.

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primaeva wrote:
Hi! More questions fine-tuning the build.

1) Spectre vs Golem speed.

The limiting factor for build power eventually comes to Spectres moving too slow. I've seen some people craft movement jewelry - however I also noted that their movespeed is capped. Do you know an estimate of what the max speed is? Can tbey keep pace with a quicksilver flasked player? (140%×130% flask)

2) likewise, if spectres ever received the Primordial Might AI, would that make them competitive?

3) are there any files out there documenting flame golem damage / cast speed? For comparing them with Flame Sents (which I get from T12 Ivory Temple).

4) any higher level Flame Sents than T12? A T15 Flame Sent would be so sweeeet.


1) Spectre movement speed is capped for unknown reason. Probably left over from older design principles. Once their speed limit is hit you can't do anything to make them move faster. You just need to convocate frequently but of course convo is on a 8s cooldown so that is just a huge limiting factor to clear speed for summoner builds.

2) Nope. Golem specific.

3) The wiki has some documentation on the damage ranges of each level of flame golem. I been thinking putting these guys in a +1 +2fire bow would be really strong.

3) If you summoned a flame sentinel already they seem to appear more often when desecrating(kinda a speculation at this point but alot of people has been saying it works). I think there are a good number of T15 that spawn them.

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Hi Matt,

Thanks again. Yes, a +2 fire bow sounds sick (but you WOULD lose Clayshaper slots, may not be worth the trade-off).

The desecrate trick seems to really work! I managed to get some off Plaza (T13) and Overgrown Ruins (or was it shrine: T15). One big tip I got off researching is to Spell Echo desecrate - 6 corpses per charge. Plus, you have to take out spell echo from chestpiece/spectre 6L anyway.

I've been contemplating putting Kingmaker on Animate Guardian - but in terms of cost-efficiency, of course Dying Breath wins (1alch vs 50 chaos? And damage increase is comparable lol).

The idea of an army of Spectres and Golems having Culling Strike (and 30% IIR) is very, very sexy though.
💥💫BB Unloader 1000% AoE 70m DPS🗡️🔪🔫: view-thread/3466787
FlickerCoC Ice Nova / Spear Assassin: view-thread/3225536
🔨⚡CWC Lightning Conduit Mjolner Trickster: view-thread/3300148
VD Arcanist Brand Necro: view-thread/2911667
Edit: Decided against Kingmaker, because Culling is just 10% AND I realised Dying Breath is a a rare source of curse multiplier, rats.
💥💫BB Unloader 1000% AoE 70m DPS🗡️🔪🔫: view-thread/3466787
FlickerCoC Ice Nova / Spear Assassin: view-thread/3225536
🔨⚡CWC Lightning Conduit Mjolner Trickster: view-thread/3300148
VD Arcanist Brand Necro: view-thread/2911667
iM stuck on level 70, got no resourcees for the primordial jewel and i only have 2k enegery shield, i dunno what to do for upgrade my es
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primaeva wrote:
Thanks again. Yes, a +2 fire bow sounds sick (but you WOULD lose Clayshaper slots, may not be worth the trade-off).


NP. Maybe for another build idea. I guess having a spectre already summoned seems to actually work. No confirmation from the devs or anything but it seems to be clearly working.


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Siewkaz wrote:
iM stuck on level 70, got no resourcees for the primordial jewel and i only have 2k enegery shield, i dunno what to do for upgrade my es


Make your character profile public and I can see what needs priority upgrading first.

If you look through the intro section only 2 uniques are really needed to make the build work. Vis mortis and bones of ullr. Then if you want to add golems clay shaper and the expensive jewels. Get even more damage with belt + damage flasks.

If you are struggling with es use a es shield instead of victario's shield.
Necronomicon: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617098
Build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/409940
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Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/zhoukon
Hi matt thanks for the fantastic build, it is a lot of fun! :D
I recently got united in dream, and am slowly starting to convert to the phys/chaos spectres with the envy aura. Should i change the gems in my gear for example putting generosity into the united in dream sword? and for the flasks you mention that we should get sin's rebirth for chaos BV spectres, what flask do i replace from the original line up(overflowing chalice, atziri prom, witchfire,vinktar, diamond)?.
Last edited by veebzz#6895 on Dec 28, 2016, 8:38:36 PM
Used this as a rough guide and am now 92 with the Golem/Flame Sent set up. Just cleared all T15's with ease (died once on Overgrown Ruin but it was twinned so meh). Running Clay Shaper and Anima for 3 Golems and using ES/Min Damage Jewels in other slots.

Prefer Flame Sentinels over the Fire Raiser Goats. It's obvious that the goats put out more DPS but I find the innate tankiness of the Sentinels and the superior AI makes them a little more robust for beyond maps and breaches.

I am not using Immortalis as I want to push 100 and would rather have the flasks for survivability as a death in the late 90's is hours of work gone and I feel the DPS with the addition of golems is sufficient for the purposes of end game moderate pace clearing.

I have a jewel slot spare next level and was thinking of grabbing the primordial might jewel for the AI boost to the golems any one know if its worth it over another es/min damage rare? Not going to go for 3 primordials as it's too big a hit in ES and stats to lose my rare jewels.

Next goal is the guardians but will change to Fire Eaters for that, will post again with my thoughts when done.

Feel free to check my tree/equipment and ask any questions.
No matter the cost bitches, no matter the cost.
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veebzz wrote:
Hi matt thanks for the fantastic build, it is a lot of fun! :D
I recently got united in dream, and am slowly starting to convert to the phys/chaos spectres with the envy aura. Should i change the gems in my gear for example putting generosity into the united in dream sword? and for the flasks you mention that we should get sin's rebirth for chaos BV spectres, what flask do i replace from the original line up(overflowing chalice, atziri prom, witchfire,vinktar, diamond)?.


NP! Glad its fun, running around with so many minions is pretty crazy lol.

Yes, having the sword frees up a gem slot, you can just put generosity into the sword if your going envy. However I am sure hatred will be much more beneficial to your damage for phy spectre then a small amount of added chaos. You'll just get some nice leech, minion damage, and free support gem from the sword.

Probably replace diamond. I feel like eventually the damage output of your minions are good enough to not require charity shield anymore so you should be picking up a es shield instead.(or another offensive option like +1 clayshaper or scourge.

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Nazdravanix wrote:
I have a jewel slot spare next level and was thinking of grabbing the primordial might jewel for the AI boost to the golems any one know if its worth it over another es/min damage rare? Not going to go for 3 primordials as it's too big a hit in ES and stats to lose my rare jewels.


Looking at your gear you are going very defensive oriented. Since golems are supplementing our spectre dps I think the might jewel isn't too necessary, The Anima stone should be enough.

An ammy has a lot of defensive stat potential you might be able to drop chayula for a kiara's determination. Since your character isn't the one outputting damage getting stunned temporarily isn't that big of an issue unless you go full in shield charging without your minions behind you.
Necronomicon: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617098
Build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/409940
Summoner Dischord: https://discord.gg/XwWdSUa
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/zhoukon
Last edited by mattc3303#7526 on Dec 29, 2016, 9:20:08 AM
Hello mattc3303 !

First of all, sorry for my english, it's not my native language :)
Excellent guide, helped me a lot, great work, thanks !

I have just a little question about links ! :) Let me quote you :

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4L aura setup:
• anger + generosity (linked together) | purity of elements - Convocation (in socket unlink from gen)

3L:
• Inc Duration + Vaal Discipline + Vaal Haste

1l(unset):
• Flesh Offering


If I'm right, on the 4L, purity of elements and convocation don't have to be linked together, that means the 4L items is needed only for the 2L between anger and generosity.

In that case, I'm wondering why you don't use that 4L item (gloves in your case) to link Flesh Offering with Inc Duration
> Inc Duration + Vaal Discipline + Vaal Haste + Flesh Offering

Then put anger + generosity (linked together) | Convocations in the 3L item (weapon in your case) (only a 2L is needed).

And finally, put purity of elements in the 1L ring (freed by Flesh offering).

I'm quite new on PoE, I may be missing something explaining your choice, that's why I'd like your feedback on this :)

Thanks in advance !
That is a great suggestion.

I think I remember why I did that thou. Incduration + Flesh offering caused flesh offering to cost too much mana. It shouldn't matter as long as you have over 45mana or so left over.
Necronomicon: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617098
Build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/409940
Summoner Dischord: https://discord.gg/XwWdSUa
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/zhoukon

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