{3.2.0} Spectral Gods: [Life Based Spectre/Golem Hybrid Summoner | Clear Speed | End Game Bossing]

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Allnamestaken wrote:

Don't be fooled by 2k life on montregul's. It is a wrong buff to the item, with no snapshot survival of the zombies is not important, but damage is. Monstregul's increases their damage, but then adds a LESS modifier to your overall zombie DPS, so it is not a good item anymore. What they should have done is make the INCREASED modifier into a MORE one, then using it would make sense as it would perform according to it's theme of fewer super powerful zombies.

They will be able to survive a vaal smash, dominus smash, exile flameblast, exile firestorm/crematorium firestorm and so on and so on. Very good item now for those hard encounters. A weapon to keep on the switch for sure.

Minion damage is freaking outstanding. The problem has always been survival which will not be a problem anymore.

Its not a bad item now. But its still mediocre.

You lose half your zombies, access to another 6l via 2h and since snapshotting is no longer a thing you can easily replace zombies that die with a press of a button. Still really good if your whole plan is to have a beefy front line.

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mattc3303 wrote:

Its not a bad item now. But its still mediocre.

You lose half your zombies, access to another 6l via 2h and since snapshotting is no longer a thing you can easily replace zombies that die with a press of a button. Still really good if your whole plan is to have a beefy front line.

Still, assuming you do get the extra zombie passives (and perhaps a bone of ullr) I believe 5 uber zombies is enough, especially since more usually get in the way of each other. The corpse explosion they provide is pretty significant as well, and synergizes nicely with the SRS and ele weakness.

Edit: Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can still reach 10 zombies with bones + passives right? Been awhile since I checked the new tree.

Yup you can still summon 10 total by grabbing every passive + ullr + another +1 zombie item.

so really its a about 9 zombies or 4 super zombies. Main reason am not liking the item too much is that I lose either my 6l zombie or my 6l srs by using a 1h.

looking forward to tinkering with my standard summoner a bit after snapshot changes, which should be a challenge in itself :)

and yeah, also not crazy about montreguls 'buff' at all. dont see many people using it in the future.

dying breath is pretty interesting now though, if 18% to aura effectiveness is a thing with animate guardian, I might actually use the guardian now.

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mattc3303 wrote:

Evangelist, Flame Sentinels, and tentacles are still the 3 most effective spectre.

so apparently I read that patch note wrong

at lv20 spectre get 10% less life 10% less es but +10%more damage. A buff to spectre users right there.

Am still planning on SRS over spectres thou. It always goes back to the question of can this summon survive high damage bosses =/.

I hate SRS... I dont feel like a true summoner when I must cast to get dmg :(
I think I'll get montregul's grasp for super tanky infernal blow zombies, it should be fun.

btw, if I place my zombies on a 4L (+2 helm) till I get a decent 6L, which should be my 4th link? faster attacks or melee physical? for clear speed!

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noobdw wrote:

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mattc3303 wrote:

Evangelist, Flame Sentinels, and tentacles are still the 3 most effective spectre.

so apparently I read that patch note wrong

at lv20 spectre get 10% less life 10% less es but +10%more damage. A buff to spectre users right there.

Am still planning on SRS over spectres thou. It always goes back to the question of can this summon survive high damage bosses =/.

I hate SRS... I dont feel like a true summoner when I must cast to get dmg :(
I think I'll get montregul's grasp for super tanky infernal blow zombies, it should be fun.

btw, if I place my zombies on a 4L (+2 helm) till I get a decent 6L, which should be my 4th link? faster attacks or melee physical? for clear speed!

Same here. srs is not a true summoner =)

I think melee physical is better than fa because we can speed up their attacks with flesh offering and vaal haste anyway.

You guys are going to make those skulls feel bad =(. They are still tagged as "minion" Imo they are similar to skeletons and am sure everyone considers them minions xD.

I still really like the variety of spectre choices you can get and I wish I had an extra 4 sockets to throw spectre into my build but the curse of running out of sockets on a summoner =/.

I always wanted to do a SRS build and I'm gonna try this in the next HC league. Which auras do you plan to use now that you need to remove one of the 60% ones?

Most likely more damage auras

Hatred + Generosity + anger/wrath + reduced mana

Haste + clarity + reduced mana

If am unable to fit anger/wrath with the nerfed reservation i'll probably choose from one of those 40% auras.

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Well if u guys want a traditional summoner(spectre + zombie) I think that there are a ton of 2h unique out there that can make a very interesting build. Am definitely going to give spectre another shot once the patch hits. The passive build I currently have is very flexible either way. Its as simple as removing that increased duration nodes for minion life cluster(3). And the rest of the passive tree can remain the same.

2h option being:

Either this unique bow (http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Doomfletch) or a rare bow with defensive stats(idk if that even exists) + a defensive stat quiver. The nice thing about Raise Spectre is it doesn't matter what weapon you use so you might as well 6L bow + quiver for more stats. The only problem being that its going to be a pain in the ass to get the right colors.

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Dying_Breath althought that 18% damage taken kinda sucks

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Pledge_of_Hands Great for MoM, 7L spectre

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Chober_Chaber Max mana , minion life, 25% increased skill duration for your buffs. Decent item.

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Wideswing 7L spectre

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Quecholli Really interesting. Enemies killed by your minion will also blow up?

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Queen%27s_Decree +1 spectre +1 zombie great wep for spectre

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Blood_Reaper +100 life not bad.

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Wings_of_Entropy Blocking not bad.

I definitely want to try either pledge or Quecholli.

Of course you can still go sword and board for character tankiness and move auras/utility to the shield/wep slots and 4L a spectre. But the 2H potential seems really good.