{3.2.0} Spectral Gods: [Life Based Spectre/Golem Hybrid Summoner | Clear Speed | End Game Bossing]

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mattc3303 wrote:

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harmonictempest wrote:

mattc, can you explain why a CI build doesn't let you do auras as well as life? I made a CI build when 1.1 dropped, and will currently be able to pick up all the aura nodes by the mid-70s or so. You've made me nervous that there's something I'm overlooking now. :P

You should be able to use the same % reservations as a EB/life build. But EB/life builds generally have a lot more max mana(translate to more mana regen and more mana left over) To utilize MoM and AA efficiently. You can also use a max level clarity easier since you'll have plenty of mana left over. This probably means to gain a decent mana pool on a CI character you will need to grab more max mana and mana regen than an EB/Life.

You can pull it off but i find EB/life build for the summoner to be much more effective and god knows how many regrets I have spent perfecting this build over the year or so i been playing lol. (since closed beta).

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illmtk wrote:

So what happens now to those that can't get cloak of defiance? :P Should I still stick to IR or just go full evasion from grace

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mattc3303 wrote:

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illmtk wrote:

So what happens now to those that can't get cloak of defiance? :P Should I still stick to IR or just go full evasion from grace

Cloak of defiance is on the cheap side of things. Shouldn't be too hard to get one. That 40% MoM + AA is quite powerful, am still surprised when I walk around in high level maps with like 500 armor and feeling like flies are hitting me =P.

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Asmosis wrote:

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mattc3303 wrote:

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illmtk wrote:

So what happens now to those that can't get cloak of defiance? :P Should I still stick to IR or just go full evasion from grace

Cloak of defiance is on the cheap side of things. Shouldn't be too hard to get one. That 40% MoM + AA is quite powerful, am still surprised when I walk around in high level maps with like 500 armor and feeling like flies are hitting me =P.

Its probably because the amount armour reduces damage by scales up with the damage, so it doesnt do *that* much vs small/medium attacks (much less than its stated % reduction) and really only does its max reduction vs very large hits, which are going to hurt regardless.

I decided to do the math on it vs a low/high attack.

Heres an example to compare things. I'm using your 500 armor, lvl 26 AA x1.21 stats (396 reduction). 20k armor is about right for IR+Grace, 50k if you pop a jade flask of armour.

1k damage hit:
20k armour = 375 damage taken
50k armour = 193 damage taken
MoM+AA = 180 damage taken

Thats why you feel so tanky vs regular stuff, with MoM cloak + AA, you have an effective armour rating around 60-70k.

I'm not sure which damage threshold would be the cutover point when you are reducing the max amount possible for MoM+AA, i'd guess a hard reduction around 1k damage when taking 3-4k damage hits? not much hits harder than that which can't be dodged around entirely.

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Discipline's base ES is not high enough compared to grace which has 2k+ base evasion (multiplied by 50% with determination) which boost the minions hugely IMO, but I am still doing the tests.