{3.2.0} Spectral Gods: [Life Based Spectre/Golem Hybrid Summoner | Clear Speed | End Game Bossing]

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LemmiwinksGerbil wrote:
Why not snapshot with Bones of Ullr too? do i lose the +1 minions when I take it off? thx

yes you loose the +1 spectre if you take it off. But the movement speed will be there for your minions if you use it for snapshot which is clearly useless, so either you use it completely or else you don't (Not even during snapshot).
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babai_witch_here wrote:
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LemmiwinksGerbil wrote:
Why not snapshot with Bones of Ullr too? do i lose the +1 minions when I take it off? thx

yes you loose the +1 spectre if you take it off. But the movement speed will be there for your minions if you use it for snapshot which is clearly useless, so either you use it completely or else you don't (Not even during snapshot).


Also lose a zombie if you take it off i imagine?
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kompaniet wrote:
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babai_witch_here wrote:
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LemmiwinksGerbil wrote:
Why not snapshot with Bones of Ullr too? do i lose the +1 minions when I take it off? thx

yes you loose the +1 spectre if you take it off. But the movement speed will be there for your minions if you use it for snapshot which is clearly useless, so either you use it completely or else you don't (Not even during snapshot).


Also lose a zombie ifyou take it off i imagine?

Yep
u have 2 build here, why 1 lost? dont see..in passives.
Has anyone done the math on 4link+2 helmet vs a 6 link chest?
This might determine if it's worth for me to invest in a tabula rasa.
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blastarus wrote:
Has anyone done the math on 4link+2 helmet vs a 6 link chest?
This might determine if it's worth for me to invest in a tabula rasa.


Here is what you get from +2 to the zombie skill. Click in the top area to see skeleton stats too.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0Ahqk9lptRHcMdHdjM1hTNTV1NzhBeEtQYlVvM1NvSFE&toomany=true#gid=0

What you get from an extra 2 levels:

~100 dps
~500 life
~200 armour

That's about it. I wonder why people in this thread have told me my lvl 18 zombies are dying easy because they have low resists when we can see in the spreadsheet zombies from lvl 15 to 30 have exacly the same amount of resists....

To answer your question i think you can get more than 100 dps out of a 6 link compared to a 4 link. Life and armour may be harder. If you want stronger zombies +2 levels will be better. If you want more dps 6 link is the way. That's what i think.

Last edited by kompaniet#2874 on Mar 23, 2014, 10:10:25 AM
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crushkyle wrote:

So for me, those 3 points into Inner Force only help my Summoner by giving me 21% more physical and hit reduction (at whatever level AA is), at the cost of 21% faster mana drain, correct? I'm just trying to figure out where to put my points. Thanks


Its 24% more actually. And its not just physical its fire as well. I find Inner force worth it just because of AA. Not to mention it buffs a whole plethora of other things like rejuv totem, all auras, all friendly auras(dom blow, shrines, whatever), molten shell, ect ect

Just aura buff nodes(): AA(26) 319
With self buffs(1.24): AA(26) 396
77 additional flat reduction is nothing to scoff at. That is pretty huge.

Clarity(1.7): 41.82
Clarity(1.94): 47.7

Hatred(1.7): 61.2%
Hatred(1.94): ---

Discipline(1.7): 540
Discipline(1.94): 616.9

Vitality(1.7): 2.8
Vitality(1.94): 3.2

Purity(1.7): 45.9
Purity(1.94): 52.38

rejuv(1.7): 190.4
rejuv(1.94): 217.8

Necronomicon: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617098
Build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/409940
Summoner Dischord: https://discord.gg/XwWdSUa
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/zhoukon
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u have 2 build here, why 1 lost? dont see..in passives.


If you read my short update, I was testing the original with the cloak style and I concluded that the cloak style is more versatile and can achieve the same levels of tankiness if not more(because of the extra pts)
Necronomicon: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617098
Build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/409940
Summoner Dischord: https://discord.gg/XwWdSUa
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/zhoukon
Last edited by mattc3303#7526 on Mar 23, 2014, 10:42:55 AM
mattc, can you explain why a CI build doesn't let you do auras as well as life? I made a CI build when 1.1 dropped, and will currently be able to pick up all the aura nodes by the mid-70s or so. You've made me nervous that there's something I'm overlooking now. :P

I'd also be curious how you fill stat reqs if you're avoid both Dex/Str nodes and Dex/Str gear.

For reference, I'm heading for the passive tree below, and running Hatred with Arc/Elepro/EE on zombies with Multistrike/Melee phys/Minion dam until I get better gear/slots.

Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMBBkkHYxCXEVARlhNsFVAV1xcvGYoabBqPHNwdFB2qJLAnqSj6Kpgspiy_L280CjdmN4M74TyORARGcU25VdZWY1crV8lakWTnaqxr220Zb55wu3NTfRh_xoCkgseDCYVghq6G0YhAi3qPRpAzkyeYrZuhm7WdrqKjpqym66cIpyuofarEtAy4k7vWv5fAVMHFwfPDOsk9ykrMvNDQ0_vXhtkL2RPa3eGI4vfmgeq66-7sivIe9tr31_qA-tL7Cf5J
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kompaniet wrote:
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blastarus wrote:
Has anyone done the math on 4link+2 helmet vs a 6 link chest?
This might determine if it's worth for me to invest in a tabula rasa.


Here is what you get from +2 to the zombie skill. Click in the top area to see skeleton stats too.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0Ahqk9lptRHcMdHdjM1hTNTV1NzhBeEtQYlVvM1NvSFE&toomany=true#gid=0

What you get from an extra 2 levels:

~100 dps
~500 life
~200 armour

That's about it. I wonder why people in this thread have told me my lvl 18 zombies are dying easy because they have low resists when we can see in the spreadsheet zombies from lvl 15 to 30 have exacly the same amount of resists....

To answer your question i think you can get more than 100 dps out of a 6 link compared to a 4 link. Life and armour may be harder. If you want stronger zombies +2 levels will be better. If you want more dps 6 link is the way. That's what i think.



Its not that simple, there are ton more multipliers from pasive/snapshot/linked gems.
Dont have the math, but it will be way more damage increase than 100, however the result should be less than 6 link from TR, but again I dont have the math.

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