{3.2.0} Spectral Gods: [Life Based Spectre/Golem Hybrid Summoner | Clear Speed | End Game Bossing]

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Iluvthu wrote:

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Sllayer69 wrote:

Can someone explain how exactly works the CoD spectre summoning? I have never used the remote mine spell, so i tryed recently to use the gems like a user was saying, to get everything up except Cod, then get CoD and use the mines. But how do you use the spell "remote mine"? Because when i tryed it i couldnt cast the spell. Are you supposed to attach a trap spell to it and use it first, then blow it up and it will cast the associated spell (in this case summon spectre?

You have answered your own question with the last part of your text. For exampled 4l head piece:
Remote mine
Raise Spectre
Minion Life
Increase Area

Put raise spectre on you skill bar 1 (can be any except lmb).
Cast the skill.
This will put a remote mine on the ground on or near the corpse of a mob.
Detonate the mine using the 'd' key.
Voila, you have your spectre.


However, reading the posts here I think minion dmg give better dps than remote mine.

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Sllayer69 wrote:

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Iluvthu wrote:

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Sllayer69 wrote:

Can someone explain how exactly works the CoD spectre summoning? I have never used the remote mine spell, so i tryed recently to use the gems like a user was saying, to get everything up except Cod, then get CoD and use the mines. But how do you use the spell "remote mine"? Because when i tryed it i couldnt cast the spell. Are you supposed to attach a trap spell to it and use it first, then blow it up and it will cast the associated spell (in this case summon spectre?

You have answered your own question with the last part of your text. For exampled 4l head piece:
Remote mine
Raise Spectre
Minion Life
Increase Area

Put raise spectre on you skill bar 1 (can be any except lmb).
Cast the skill.
This will put a remote mine on the ground on or near the corpse of a mob.
Detonate the mine using the 'd' key.
Voila, you have your spectre.


However, reading the posts here I think minion dmg give better dps than remote mine.

Yea it wasnt working before because i was linking CoD before laying the mine, i got it working now.
So one last question. Can saomeone confirm that if you get the links up with remote mine / RS/ minion dmg/ inc burn/ etc, lay the mine on the corpse, then equip CoD, when you blow up the mine the RS will have CoD buff?

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Moose65 wrote:

I meant Remote AND Trap support, since there are several nearby nodes that boost damage done by mines and traps, which in turn would increase zombie damage (I was toying around with massive multipliers via Melee Physical, Remote Mine, and Trap Support) Several of the nodes would give a flat 16~40% damage boost since they were boosting Mine and Trap damage, feeding into both supports basically.

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Moose65 wrote:

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Asmosis wrote:

I'm 99% sure you dont get 5% to traps plus 5% to mines if you take those nodes, its a similar situation to the "increased armor and evasion" nodes. GGG's stance is a single source should only affect the end result once, so overall 5% increased trap&mine damage would be the same as 5% increased minion damage.

They are also worded completely differently though. With them being fairly new nodes, I wouldn't doubt that they don't function the same. It takes a fairly unique situation to even double dip into those nodes (using a remote mine AND trap support connected to a skill).

If they don't work that way, then those nodes are somewhat useless. Either way, Trap Support + Sunblast are still superior options to any other supports for BMs now after you have remote mine and Conc effect.

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tdr3d wrote:

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RedShades wrote:

Just thought I'd comment on the trap/mine nodes.

With my build, currently lvl 77, my specters have +112% damage and +155 life (haven't taken any minion damage nodes yet). When my build fills out the rest, sacrificing two 15% minion damage nodes for the 'Expeditious Munitions' trap/mine node near the center would be a no brainier.

Assuming lvl 20 gems with Trap (34% more), Remote Mine (49% more) and Minion Damage (imagining 150% minion damage vs 120% and 27% trap/mine damage)

Minion Damage spec
Multiplier = 1*(1+.34)*(1+.49)*(1+1.5) = 4.99

Trap Mine spec
Multiplier = 1*(1+.34)*(1+.27)*(1+.49)*(1+.27)*(1+1.2) = 7.08

Totally worth it.

This is exactly the information i was looking for. Thank you for providing this. This has confirmed to me that it is infact better to not only grab expeditious munitions, but also go and grab Saboteur at the cost of travelling to one of the other minion nodes.

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ImAFckingDragn wrote:

Any other tips for keeping minions alive? It seems almost every map that I run with a full party results in some minion losses. Then everyone moans as I have to go and create some more. =(

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Can someone please help me verify if the nodes do affect BM? Do they double dip? If I took "High Explosives" (Trap & Mine Penetrates 10% Resistances) does it apply to BM? I don't have regrets to test out the nodes :(

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EomMage wrote:

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Mark_GGG wrote:

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dragonseth07 wrote:

I was under the impression that people were putting it on the summon and dying intentionally in order to get summons with the ridiculous damage boost from CoD. Have I been misled?

No, but there's also a worse case where a bug allows people to get the bonus without ever dying. This bug has been fixed locally and will make it to the realm soon.

what about the exploit where you put spectres on CoD and spectre yourself on death -- will that be fixed as well?

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Mark_GGG wrote:

Yes. It's less broken, but skill abusive. Except in hardcore.