Exp loss is dumb and so r those that support it

dont care if you disagree your wrong and that includes the devs. "gUt GoD" if thats your mentality go play soul level 1 while blindfolded with your feet. exp loss is demoralizing, if not for your its for the majority of players, and tbh i could forgive it if not for all the other bs punishment on top of it. its like going over a toll bridge only for cop to always be their to pull u over for any infraction. sure you can say "lol just drive better" but thats not addressing whats happening and it applies to the game as well. no one drives perfect no one plays perfect demanding i play your way or not at all will lead me to just not play not get better, just like id avoid the toll bridge not drive better. exp is the steps that drive you towards progression and while they r progression, especially in early game, they become more like small incremental steps towards a truly powerful character, removing 10% every time i die is telling me if i want those steps i cant enjoy playing the game anymore, either confirm and play perfect or go grind and i mean grind days, not hours in content ive long since out leveled mindlessly. its not fun, it kills motivation and it will gatekeep the game, and that sucks. if you want to gatekeep u dont deserve to be heard cause you don't want others to be heard, u dont care about the health of the game or its players so u need to exist the convo. ive seen many suggestions, reducing the grind, capping exp loss, or if you really want to keep the gate ,ake a super casual mod that removes it so players who like that can still have it and those like me who dont can still enjoy the game. this doesnt need to be an on or off switch issue there is nuisance to be had but so long as the response of both players and devs is lol get good, its going to cap any and all progress of growing and maintaining the game. and if u need the ultimate proof, you wont find it the forms or thread here because i knwo he wont post but on of my long time gaming friends (weve been playing for 15+y) is a true free to play warframe player, never spent a single dime and is very high level with all base frames and all but like 2 primes. man can grind like no other, he even plays gatcha games like zzz and genshin when it first dropped. hes big at working a game to fit for him doesnt like to follow the patch notes or youtubers a true gamer if ive seen one. he dropped the game once he reached maps and has been at lvl 70 for weeks now as he got to endgame weeks ago b4 i did. i wondered why he basically stopped playing and wasnt surpassing me and out other friends like he does in every other game by wide margins now i know why. i reached maps/waypoints and all motivation droopped off a cliff once i saw that exp bar going down, it killed me, it killed him and it will kill the long term viability of the game
Last bumped on Jan 27, 2025, 5:19:01 PM
lmfao
Mash the clean
You could at least add some paragraphing.
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dont care if you disagree your wrong and that includes the devs. "gUt GoD" if thats your mentality go play soul level 1 while blindfolded with your feet. exp loss is demoralizing, if not for your its for the majority of players, and tbh i could forgive it if not for all the other bs punishment on top of it. its like going over a toll bridge only for cop to always be their to pull u over for any infraction. sure you can say "lol just drive better" but thats not addressing whats happening and it applies to the game as well. no one drives perfect no one plays perfect demanding i play your way or not at all will lead me to just not play not get better, just like id avoid the toll bridge not drive better. exp is the steps that drive you towards progression and while they r progression, especially in early game, they become more like small incremental steps towards a truly powerful character, removing 10% every time i die is telling me if i want those steps i cant enjoy playing the game anymore, either confirm and play perfect or go grind and i mean grind days, not hours in content ive long since out leveled mindlessly. its not fun, it kills motivation and it will gatekeep the game, and that sucks. if you want to gatekeep u dont deserve to be heard cause you don't want others to be heard, u dont care about the health of the game or its players so u need to exist the convo. ive seen many suggestions, reducing the grind, capping exp loss, or if you really want to keep the gate ,ake a super casual mod that removes it so players who like that can still have it and those like me who dont can still enjoy the game. this doesnt need to be an on or off switch issue there is nuisance to be had but so long as the response of both players and devs is lol get good, its going to cap any and all progress of growing and maintaining the game. and if u need the ultimate proof, you wont find it the forms or thread here because i knwo he wont post but on of my long time gaming friends (weve been playing for 15+y) is a true free to play warframe player, never spent a single dime and is very high level with all base frames and all but like 2 primes. man can grind like no other, he even plays gatcha games like zzz and genshin when it first dropped. hes big at working a game to fit for him doesnt like to follow the patch notes or youtubers a true gamer if ive seen one. he dropped the game once he reached maps and has been at lvl 70 for weeks now as he got to endgame weeks ago b4 i did. i wondered why he basically stopped playing and wasnt surpassing me and out other friends like he does in every other game by wide margins now i know why. i reached maps/waypoints and all motivation droopped off a cliff once i saw that exp bar going down, it killed me, it killed him and it will kill the long term viability of the game


OP died while posting this and is still stuck at 70.
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Mordgier#6997 wrote:


OP died while posting this and is still stuck at 70.


They were attempting to play blindfolded with their feet.
Mash the clean
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Mordgier#6997 wrote:


OP died while posting this and is still stuck at 70.


They were attempting to play blindfolded with their feet.


But then the toll cop pulled him over....
Last edited by Mordgier#6997 on Jan 25, 2025, 8:21:03 PM
You don't lose XP if you don't die.

Pretty simple.
glad to see all of the shills coming out of their wholes with their dogshit takes. if you dont want your mmo to cater to players with different time and skill levels then ur mmo dies. and yes i know its an arpg but it is first and foremost a MassiveMultiplayerOnline game. and [Removed by Support]. i specified some compromises but ur all to [Removed by Support] and stubborn to make any concession. if your game can kill the motivation of someone with over 5000+ h in wareframe do u seriously think it wont do so to the rest of the casuals. ur lucky diablo sucks and last epoch was a dud, give it time tho and sometime sooner or later someone will break that glass tower your so comfortable throwing stones from. its really not that heard to find compromises for the betterment of the game but i guess elitism, gatekeeping, and your imaginary "sense of accomplishment" for enduring a broken system is more important.
Last edited by Vash_GGG#0000 on Jan 25, 2025, 8:41:04 PM
I was going to hear you out but that wall of text is awful.
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I was going to hear you out but that wall of text is awful.

its really not that hard to follow, its written like i was speaking i shoudlnt need to break everything up for you to follow the main point which was in the title. the rest was just adding context
Last edited by ExaltedReapers#1455 on Jan 25, 2025, 8:43:19 PM

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