Please do NOT add an Auction House

We need an Auction House. The current trading system is abysmal at best. I never get a response from anyone...EVER!!!! Unless people respond, its absolutely useless.
Man, this argument has been going on for years on the POE1 side.

Here's why I think GGG sticks with the current trade system. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with it. But trying to explain it to players who are new to POE.

1) GGG thinks with instant buyout or AH, trading will become too easy. Players would find upgrades too easily and max their characters out too fast, get bored, and stop playing.

2) GGG makes its money from the sale of MTX. They want players to have to visit other players hideouts. There are lots of hideout decorations (some POE1 guys got super decked out hideouts) and GGG wants players to see them. If you see a hideout decoration you may want to buy that.

Also, they want player to player interaction in the trade so players can check out other players MTX. If a player sees an outfit they like, they may want to buy it in the store.

POE1 is a free game. POE2 will be free when it goes live. I think some people who are not use to POE think that the $30 spent for early access are confused about how GGG is making money.

GGG makes its money selling stuff in its store. That's why you're required to go to another hideout and trade in person imo.

Good luck if you can get them to change, but I don't think it's going to happen.
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We need an Auction House. The current trading system is abysmal at best. I never get a response from anyone...EVER!!!! Unless people respond, its absolutely useless.


No one responds cause the friction of leaving a map is too annoying, especially when ur in boss fights or doing timed mechanics.
One cannot help but wonder how such a lust for loot can affect a persons mind. Although these exiles appear to be our salvation, it would not take much for them to turn on us as easily as they fight gods and demons.
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PoE's trade system is unique from all other games and is far more enjoyable than all those games with auction houses.



LOL
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Man, this argument has been going on for years on the POE1 side.

Here's why I think GGG sticks with the current trade system. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with it. But trying to explain it to players who are new to POE.

1) GGG thinks with instant buyout or AH, trading will become too easy. Players would find upgrades too easily and max their characters out too fast, get bored, and stop playing.

2) GGG makes its money from the sale of MTX. They want players to have to visit other players hideouts. There are lots of hideout decorations (some POE1 guys got super decked out hideouts) and GGG wants players to see them. If you see a hideout decoration you may want to buy that.

Also, they want player to player interaction in the trade so players can check out other players MTX. If a player sees an outfit they like, they may want to buy it in the store.

POE1 is a free game. POE2 will be free when it goes live. I think some people who are not use to POE think that the $30 spent for early access are confused about how GGG is making money.

GGG makes its money selling stuff in its store. That's why you're required to go to another hideout and trade in person imo.

Good luck if you can get them to change, but I don't think it's going to happen.


As a new player, I would prefer auction house. Current system with writing to someone will not make me trade, nor see other people hideouts to buy something. In fact, lack of AH, will rather put me away from a game, since I will see a wall that will prevent me from mapping.
But what if I could buy better items without DMs? Well, I would spend more time in game probably, since I got a better equipment and I can kill mobs/bosses further :)

So, yeah, I would rather stop playing then deal with current trading system.
This market is the dirtiest thing I've ever seen. Lazy work to keep people online and encourages RMT. If it continues like this, I will only participate in leagues on the solo server, do the basics of the league and leave the game aside, or just forget about POE and go to a game that isn't stuck in the worst mechanics of the 2000s.
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billzao#1256 wrote:
and encourages RMT


This sentence is like saying that a PvP shooter "encourages aimbot". Sure, but there's no way around it. Cheaters and exploiters will be cheaters and exploiters no matter what.

Trading is one of the main pillars of PoE. It is NEVER going away. And it's PERFECTLY fine that there's ONE ARPG on the market that is built around an economy, when several of PoE's competitors are going/went a different route.

It's early access. We knew there would be broken shit. We knew there may be exploits. That's the most important part of any early access program; player testing to find this stuff. One million players would find WAY more weaknesses WAY faster than a few testers would over at GGG.

And when the large patches come that fix a lot of stuff, they will come with a wipe/new league where everyone starts out just as broke as the next guy - with the same opportunities.
Sometimes, just sometimes, you should really consider adapting to the world, instead of demanding that the world adapts to you.
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Please GGG, don't listen to the tourists demanding an in-game auction house. PoE's trade system is unique from all other games and is far more enjoyable than all those games with auction houses. These new players just have to adapt to and learn trading in a style they haven't experienced before.

I already saw Jonathan caving in to auction house demands in the recent Q&A stream, he might as well have confirmed it after being asked about it because he said something like "we'll look into it".

PoE trade has all kinds of benefits and traits to it that do not exist in auction house systems. For example if you underpriced an item, you can change your mind about selling it for too little after getting spammed by countless whispers - in an auction house you would lose the item immediately.
Another is being able to set up live alerts and snipe great deals.

And whatever happened to your own decade long belief that trade has to exist this way so that people see other players hideouts, otherwise there's no point in hideout customization?

Don't add auction house, it will completely ruin the trading!


This post is total nonsense. Trading is awful.
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We need an Auction House. The current trading system is abysmal at best. I never get a response from anyone...EVER!!!! Unless people respond, its absolutely useless.


No one responds cause the friction of leaving a map is too annoying, especially when ur in boss fights or doing timed mechanics.


Which is one of the biggest reasons for the way the In-Game trade market in POE1 was so good: didn't have to leave maps to handle anything. I mean, you COULD if you wanted, but after finishing a map, check your offers, accept the ones you liked, ignore or decline the ones you don't... put more stuff up for sale, and off to mapping again!

I'd prefer a buyout version, but just having a system that allows for actually PLAYING the game while selling stuff? PRICELESS!

On the note of Hideout Customization (that the OP said): I'd like people to come check out my guild's hideout, I put a lot of work into it. But, I'm also not really concerned that no one ever does. The players in my guild are who matter, so I want their interests taken care of, and design the layouts and decorations with them in mind, not strangers who I will never see again.
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billzao#1256 wrote:
just forget about POE and go to a game that isn't stuck in the worst mechanics of the 2000s.


Been there, done that. Around 2022, IIRC. One of the best decisions I've ever made related to games.
Came back baited by PoE 2 because I decided to give GGG a second chance. One of the worst decisions I've ever made related to games.
They joined Epic in my list of game dev companies that will never see a single new cent of my money.


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1) GGG thinks with instant buyout or AH, trading will become too easy. Players would find upgrades too easily and max their characters out too fast, get bored, and stop playing.


The reality is this game is already too easy and people get bored fast. Just go look at the player curve every new league.
GGG deliberately keeps things like that because that's how they make money.

PoE 1 has 100+ skills, so it's not like this game lacked content to keep players engaged longer. It's literally this way by design.

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