Bow skills damage conversion

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Ashyev#5110 wrote:

It's definitely semantics about on paper stuff lmao

On paper Ice Strike does 80% Cold Damage but in practice :

8299 - 17148 Total Dmg = 100%
601 - 1241 Phys Dmg = 7.2 %
7698 - 15907 Cold Dmg = 92.8 %

It's already possible to get close to a mono-type of Damage Source as i said . Your point here is "we should get that right off the bat because i'm missing out on milking phys dmg into my +300% Elem build" which is the big picture and it's consequences you are ignoring : if GGG would set every skill at 100% Conversion for you to milk every flat Phys to snowball into the next steps which are X% Increased Elem Damage , X% Increased Cold Dmg , and so on ... that would make the final DPS of mono-elemental builds so high GGG would end up nerfing damage globally .

So congratulations : you are asking for GGG to buff mono-dmg build even further ( they are already strong enough ) , while nerfing the other build possibilities being around but that will end up getting everyone nerfed all together .
I reject both the premise & the conclusion of all that .


You understand nothing. I personally do not care about if we use hybrid damage or single elemental damage. I am fine with both. As stated before. I am not asking for anything.

The reason I am still writing in this thread is because you a writing factually wrong posts. You try to misinform players. Not in this post. Here you stated that full conversion yields more damage then partial. But when you said we have full conversion, that is simply, factually false!

You simply can't say a moldy, stinky piece of raw chicken that has been lying outside in the dirt for 5 days is as healthy as an apple, just because when you are on the toilet they come out the same. There is still a difference.
Last edited by Avaricta#4758 on Jan 13, 2025, 7:52:56 AM
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Avaricta#4758 wrote:
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Ashyev#5110 wrote:

It's definitely semantics about on paper stuff lmao

On paper Ice Strike does 80% Cold Damage but in practice :

8299 - 17148 Total Dmg = 100%
601 - 1241 Phys Dmg = 7.2 %
7698 - 15907 Cold Dmg = 92.8 %

It's already possible to get close to a mono-type of Damage Source as i said . Your point here is "we should get that right off the bat because i'm missing out on milking phys dmg into my +300% Elem build" which is the big picture and it's consequences you are ignoring : if GGG would set every skill at 100% Conversion for you to milk every flat Phys to snowball into the next steps which are X% Increased Elem Damage , X% Increased Cold Dmg , and so on ... that would make the final DPS of mono-elemental builds so high GGG would end up nerfing damage globally .

So congratulations : you are asking for GGG to buff mono-dmg build even further ( they are already strong enough ) , while nerfing the other build possibilities being around but that will end up getting everyone nerfed all together .
I reject both the premise & the conclusion of all that .


You understand nothing. I personally do not care about if we use hybrid damage or single elemental damage. I am fine with both. As stated before. I am not asking for anything.

The reason I am still writing in this thread is because you a writing factually wrong posts. You try to misinform players. Not in this post. Here you stated that full conversion yields more damage then partial. But when you said we have full conversion, that is simply, factually false!

You simply can't say a moldy, stinky piece of raw chicken that has been lying outside in the dirt for 5 days is as healthy as an apple, just because when you are on the toilet they come out the same. There is still a difference.


I refuse to acknowledge that my wah wah would fix absolutely nothing given there was no issue in the first place and it would create huge balance problems so let's turn to 11 my arguing about semantics to save face

If you don't care about the final balance of this game and just care about being right about made up non-issues you can backtrack all the way out of this "skill should be at 100% conversion" thread then
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Last edited by Ashyev#5110 on Jan 13, 2025, 8:05:08 AM
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Ashyev#5110 wrote:

I refuse to acknowledge that my wah wah would fix absolutely nothing given there was no issue in the first place and it would create huge balance problems so let's turn to 11 my arguing about semantics to save face

If you don't care about the final balance of this game and just care about being right about made up non-issues you can backtrack all the way out of this thread then


There is no sense in arguing with you.

You stated that there is 100% conversion when there is not.

If you want to treat added damage as conversion ... be my guest. Just please, don't misinform newer players with such BS.

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Ashyev#5110 wrote:
I never stated that , buh bye .


I really do not want to bump this thread again. But you are correct and I am sorry.

I stated that there are no conversion support gems and that added damage is not conversion and you answered with Wrong & Wrong. Which is factually wrong.
Last edited by Avaricta#4758 on Jan 13, 2025, 8:14:17 AM
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Avaricta#4758 wrote:
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Ashyev#5110 wrote:

I refuse to acknowledge that my wah wah would fix absolutely nothing given there was no issue in the first place and it would create huge balance problems so let's turn to 11 my arguing about semantics to save face

If you don't care about the final balance of this game and just care about being right about made up non-issues you can backtrack all the way out of this thread then


There is no sense in arguing with you.

You stated that there is 100% conversion when there is not.

If you want to treat added damage as conversion ... be my guest. Just please, don't misinform newer players with such BS.



I never stated that , buh bye .
"Go buy a supporter pack and I might take you seriously." ~ Generic PoE whale
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-post/25976591

ICE BELL RINGER ~ Endgame Farming ~ Pinnacle Eraser ~ Gamepad Gameplay ~ Low Budget ~ 0.1.1 Version
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3705057
I don't want to bring this thread up again, but let's finally tell the truth.

Approaching 100% conversion in various ways does not mean converting 100%.

I would like to thank Avaricta#4758 for his contributions. He is a rare person who truly understands this issue and tells us the truth.
Last edited by SoulOfReapeR#4323 on Jan 13, 2025, 1:34:22 PM
the amount of math illiteracy in this thread is astounding.

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