Why dedicate my time if I can lose all my XP with a death penalty?

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KingDaMuncha#6025 wrote:

I've got 3 characters to level 80 now. By being a leech. I'll join a group where the leader is running a META build and has hundreds of stones to burn, and I'll just hang back and leech XP. If I go anywhere near the front where he is I die instantly and loose the XP. So the game rewards me for letting you do al the dangerous work.

Is that fun? no. But thats the only way to progress if your not running a Meta Monk build.

That is the most insane wrong shit i've ever read on this forum ever. No, you can progress if you know how to make a build, you dont HAVE to play a meta build, you dont HAVE to copy and paste what some other person did for you. You're a human...you can do things on you're own ya know? You can take something that seems interesting to you and *GASP* learn to make it work somehow. Imagine that.

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frazency#2974 wrote:

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KingDaMuncha#6025 wrote:

Dont lie to me. I've got both those characters at level 80 and theres no way to have stats like that.

Here you go.
https://imgur.com/vM5RD2d
https://imgur.com/uphknVp
20 hours was with ~4 hours of afk, the actual time I played was ~15 hours, all soloing, no party. And I'm having no issues with surviving at all, even with 0 ES 0 MoM build. Except in super extra damage / pen elemental res/ elemental weakness maps.
Oh and 82% evasion was with Acrobatics, without it it's 94%.
https://imgur.com/FGnjlPg

How about you try again in a full party where the monsters are 300% more difficult.

And the only gear you get is what you picked up way back in Act3 Normal.

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KingDaMuncha#6025 wrote:

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frazency#2974 wrote:

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KingDaMuncha#6025 wrote:

Dont lie to me. I've got both those characters at level 80 and theres no way to have stats like that.

Here you go.
https://imgur.com/vM5RD2d
https://imgur.com/uphknVp
20 hours was with ~4 hours of afk, the actual time I played was ~15 hours, all soloing, no party. And I'm having no issues with surviving at all, even with 0 ES 0 MoM build. Except in super extra damage / pen elemental res/ elemental weakness maps.
Oh and 82% evasion was with Acrobatics, without it it's 94%.
https://imgur.com/FGnjlPg

How about you try again in a full party where the monsters are 300% more difficult.

And the only gear you have is what you picked up way back in Act3 Normal.

I don't understand your point. We all had the same start in this league. My first char is lv 97, and I have a lv 90 char with 20 hours played. This thread is about XP penalty on death, the struggles on leveling, also you said that we must follow a meta build or leech exp to level up, which I proved is wrong.

And party play is actually easier/gives more benefit than solo play, else no1 would play in a party. You're just not good enough yet. So try to get better with the game if you want to, else stop complaining I guess. It's not that hard. Just put some efforts into it if you want to be good at it.

I'll complain as much as I like Mr "I ONLY palyed 20 hours today"

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KingDaMuncha#6025 wrote:

I'll complain as much as I like Mr "I ONLY palyed 20 hours today"

20 hours played, it took me 3 days. LOL for your attempt of blaming on my no-life, I guess? I'm very casual and have a full time job. Git gud.

Penalties for dying has always been a part of path of exile. if you cant live with it, go find another game. GGG losing money but I can see most of the crybabies that ask for this doesnt even have a forum supporter badge. you didnt spend shit except for buying the EA. People will always find something to complain just like any other game. ohh elden ring too hard, honor system sucks i dont know to play it but we can 500+ temporalis in market lol.

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LilianaRinoa#2667 wrote:

Penalties for dying has always been a part of path of exile. if you cant live with it, go find another game. GGG losing money but I can see most of the crybabies that ask for this doesnt even have a forum supporter badge. you didnt spend shit except for buying the EA. People will always find something to complain just like any other game. ohh elden ring too hard, honor system sucks i dont know to play it but we can 500+ temporalis in market lol.

I mean, you don't have to have a supporter badge to have an opinion. I'm pretty sure they all paid for an EA experience.

That may also be the reason why they didn't have the badge because why would you spend more money on a game that punishes you for leveling.

I also think it's unfair to blame the 500+ temporalis on the casual players. At least try to give more fair examples.

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shiraha19#6298 wrote:

That may also be the reason why they didn't have the badge because why would you spend more money on a game that punishes you for leveling.

What kind of twisted logic is this?

No, it isn't.

It's punishing you for attempting content that you are not ready for if you're constantly dying.

The epitome of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results.

If you are constantly dying at a certain stage maybe rethink your approach.

TBH after watching the interview recently I kinda changed my mind about this a little bit. Once they fix the glaring issues that cause bullshit deaths and they release the first balance patch, the 10% xp loss and 1 portal per map would be much less of a pain point.

Jonathan said it would serve as a soft gear/skill check where if you are constantly dying in a map tier, its time to review.

I'm more optimistic about the game given the dev announcements yesterday. Better visual clarity and mob tuning will certainly help.

However, I'm still of the opinion that the triple whammy of exp loss, stone loss and tower buff loss is too much in unison. I think any two of these would be better, just not all three, which seems like real overkill.