Absolutely disapointed -- This game is hard, and not in a fun way.

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Cocofang#3395 wrote:

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Etvein#1213 wrote:

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Cocofang#3395 wrote:

Why do you want the same game twice? You already have PoE1, why would you want PoE2 to be the same? PoE1 fills a unique niche on the market and so will PoE2. Why would GGG cannibalize their first game by just remaking it shinier, when they can capitalize on two niches instead?

You people don't deserve GGG. You deserve Activision, Ubisoft and Bethesda.

Because PoE1 code has its limitations and we want our QOL that were supposed to come with 4.0 and which were impossible to build on old code. Also they promised to sort through the mechanics and balance the game and update graphics. Instead they just said "f*ck off" and remade Ruthless into a different game and now we are supposed to just get lost for some reason.

We don't want to go back to a decade old spaghetti code that we can't even support anymore. No matter what GGG say, PoE 1 will get the skeleton crew treatment and die out in a year or two. Any supporter packs bought will go to develop PoE 2 instead.

They have no reason to give up on PoE1 because it still fills a unique niche that no other game, including PoE2, can fill. It has an established audience. It would make no sense not to continuously capitalize on that.

Mark my words, you entitled doomers will be blown away by the next PoE1 league. And you know why? Because GGG knows they have to prove that they are still fully committed to PoE1 and it's community. So they will deliver.

After years and years of rewarding your trust with amazing content you whiners are willing to throw it all into GGGs face just because PoE2 is different. How exactly has GGG not earned your good will after dutifully delivering you peerless content for years?

You don't even realize that one of the reasons that GGG made the decision to split PoE1 and PoE2 is YOU! Because at some point they realized they would have to delete a game that people loved and cared about (and is obviously profitable) for the sake of making the changes they wanted. So they decided to go the extra mile and deliver both. It makes no financial sense, no strategic sense and no long-term sense to throw PoE1 away because supporting it will prove GGGs commitment and cement them as trustworthy. Which is the ultimate goal for a live service.

At least that's the theory, if not for fickle, entitled people that are willing to flip the table at a whim because instead of getting the same toy but shinier, they still have to - checks notes - continue to play their favorite game.

Brats. Spoiled rotten brats.

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diego_garber#0088 wrote:

I've been playing PoE for years, and I have thousands of hours in the game.

Today I played PoE2 for ~5 hours and rage quit.

I failed to kill the act1 boss 10 times, i have 22 deaths, and honestly........ it's NOT FUN.

The reason why I love PoE is that i DO NOT HAVE TO BE ZIZARAN to enjoy it.
Let's be honest, i've played for thousands of hours and I'm NOT good at it.

Do you know how many times I've killed Maven without being hit by the memory game? 0. I've never been able to dodge it with all the beams. It's a matter of skill. But you know? it never mattered because i had my freaking 6 portals. And by getting a lot more gear than what the GOOD players need, I can finally do it. In softcore of course.

And in the campaign, I can try to kill brutus multiple times. On a brand new character I was never able to pass the second map without being killed by Roas at least once since the rework of act 1. I just can't. I try. I'm NOT GOOD. It didn't matter, because i could progress anyways!

The "dodge or die" mechanic is boring to me. I do NOT play souls games because they are boring. There are other people that DO like that. It's totally fine, but it's not the gaming i like. PoE2 feels a LOT more like "souls" than PoE1 IMHO.

That's why I rage-quit. Because i'm tired of one-shots and having to re-do the whole thing again. Because of losing progression. I'm barely in act 2 and i'm already tired of this.

I understand your decisions, but they are not fun for me. I don't even want to make another character right now to see if it changes anything. Because I won't be able to dodge the mechanics; and therefore I won't be able to play it.

It's a shame :( I was beyond excited.
I have suggestions, but I don't think they matter, because you went in a completely different direction than I'd like.

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EDIT:
When I created this post I never imagined it'd have more than 100 pages.
I want to make something clear: I LOVE GGG. They gave me PoE1. Best game ever.

I Believe i realized why it's SO DIVISIVE
* There are people who like the progression on GEAR/CURRENCY (like me)
* There are people who like the progression on "getting good"

PoE2 shifts A LOT from PoE1 in this regard. PoE1 you can get to the endgame and get a little bit of currency with almost any build as long as it makes sense.

My first PoE1 character was a minion build without understanding the tree. Sure, I made a lot of mistakes, but i finished the campaign and got a couple of chaos orbs... and then i could buy some things... etc

With PoE2 the choices i made didn't let me finish the campaign on 25+ hours. That got boring to me. I'm bad at mechanics.

PoE1 lets you ignore the mechanics for a lot longer WITHOUT GEAR NOR PLAYING WELL. PoE2 you need either one or the other :) and from act1. <== this is what is making a lot of people not like the game.

I believe that a SUB-PROBLEM of this is the WASD. I don't like it. But it makes the game substantially easier. But it's boring to me...

I think it's TOTALLY FINE to have this difficulty, but LATER IN THE GAME, when I can FARM $.

GGG: I believe that if you shift the difficulty to LATER (not making it easier per-se, but making it easier AT THE BEGINNING), you can please both type of players. OR, making it so you can grind gear on the campaign, but I doubt it, because item level restrictions, etc. ==> I'm totally fine with having to grind $ to buy my next upgrade to beat X boss. But for that I need to be on maps. Grinding gear on the campaign would "never" work IMHO

PLEASE LISTEN!!!! over 100 pages of people WANTING to love the game.

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sweetbread21#6814 wrote:

God it's depressing that the bar has sunk so low that we're at the point where literally anything that has a moderately difficult boss or even just combat that requires interaction and execution is now called Souls-like.

The gearing is perfectly fine, the only issue seems to be that the game treats bosses like a skill check first and a gear check second and a lot of PoE1 people can't seem to handle that. If you actually have the skill to execute the boss's mechanics and avoid damage then it's totally possible to progress through the game without having to grind out power. If you can't do that then yeah you're going to have to go back to the previous zone or boss and gear up until you outnumber the content. Acts and early maps aren't just a mindless trudge of filler content anymore and the game is better for it.

The misconception is thinking that gear is too important for character power, when the reality is just that the game is tuned for a much higher level of execution than what you were expecting and your ego can't seem to handle that. But hey, if you don't want to actually learn the boss fights then you've got these great options of either grinding out power til it's skill checks are negated or just going and playing PoE1 which still exists right over there and is exactly what you're asking for. Seeing gamers demand that the devs neuter their vision in order to appease the lowest-common-denominator when there are already have so. many. options. catering to that, is just beyond frustrating. Please just let a single game exist that caters to people that require more mental stimulus to be entertained than that of a baby giggling at a bunch of jingly sparkly keys being dangled in front of it.

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Waiden#9514 wrote:

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sweetbread21#6814 wrote:

God it's depressing that the bar has sunk so low that we're at the point where literally anything that has a moderately difficult boss or even just combat that requires interaction and execution is now called Souls-like.

The gearing is perfectly fine, the only issue seems to be that the game treats bosses like a skill check first and a gear check second and a lot of PoE1 people can't seem to handle that. If you actually have the skill to execute the boss's mechanics and avoid damage then it's totally possible to progress through the game without having to grind out power. If you can't do that then yeah you're going to have to go back to the previous zone or boss and gear up until you outnumber the content. Acts and early maps aren't just a mindless trudge of filler content anymore and the game is better for it.

The misconception is thinking that gear is too important for character power, when the reality is just that the game is tuned for a much higher level of execution than what you were expecting and your ego can't seem to handle that. But hey, if you don't want to actually learn the boss fights then you've got these great options of either grinding out power til it's skill checks are negated or just going and playing PoE1 which still exists right over there and is exactly what you're asking for. Seeing gamers demand that the devs neuter their vision in order to appease the lowest-common-denominator when there are already have so. many. options. catering to that, is just beyond frustrating. Please just let a single game exist that caters to people that require more mental stimulus to be entertained than that of a baby giggling at a bunch of jingly sparkly keys being dangled in front of it.

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