Alternate game mode for casual gamers

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Toforto wrote:

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Rippster wrote:

The time setting up the mode modifiers would be minimal and it would only have to be done once. The argument that a casual mode would somehow suck up enormous development time and resources is just silly.

Exactly, that and adding an easier mode literally doesn't affect anyone who doesn't play it. It wouldn't impact anyone negatively, that's like saying hardcore or ruthless worsens the experience for people who don't play those gamemodes lol

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SilentSymphony wrote:

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Mashgesture wrote:

Normal mode will just turn into a ghost town and then we will arrive at the same thing we are currently discussing. Needing more challenging content, but then having re-tractors saying its too challenging and they need ANOTHER mode to make it easier for them.

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Mashgesture wrote:

These suggestions are taking AWAY from the top end of players, because ... apparently they shouldn't be rewarded for their efforts, and just GIVEN to the lower end through a "easy mode".

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SilentSymphony wrote:

I don't know what to say, I think you're worried that you will suffer some loss as a result of this and i can't do anything to help you with that, Perhaps give ruthless a try.

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Mashgesture wrote:

Adding in "easy mode" would take away from normal mode.

The more we speak the more this comes up, Are you sure we're talking about the same thing here? Nobody is trying to harm your personal experience here.

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Mashgesture wrote:

Again play Softcore Trade or Standard if you want a casual experience.


Also, why would I want to play ruthless?

Its named Standard* And Standard Challenge*, Not Softcore.


Anyway back on the topic here, If you don't want this then just keep posting that but this isn't a battle you can win, you can only influence the outcome and it will

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Mashgesture wrote:

Everyone refers to trade league as SC trade. Take it up with the community not me.

Standard is just standard.

Again take that up with the community, good luck, who comes up with these terms.


Never did answer why I would bother playing ruthless btw.

We are responsible for our own actions and the actions we emulate from others.

And I suggested Ruthless because you seem from your posts to find the normal mode to be too easy.

Anyway this request isn't going anywhere even if the thread goes away more will be made and that's not going to garuntee easy mode will ever be added but it should be respected at some level that so many people are asking for it and if adding easy-mode is the ultimate death of the game for you then i would suggest finding the root cause of these complaints and solving it.

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y3lw0rC wrote:

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RitualMurder wrote:

you get omens now 75% reduced exp loss

Which cost 50c each? :D

Well, cool stuff if you can afford those.


In any case +1 to that alternate game mode where the penalty is at least reduced.

50c is nothing

i play ssf and i have 12 of them.....

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RitualMurder wrote:

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y3lw0rC wrote:

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RitualMurder wrote:

you get omens now 75% reduced exp loss

Which cost 50c each? :D

Well, cool stuff if you can afford those.


In any case +1 to that alternate game mode where the penalty is at least reduced.

50c is nothing

i play ssf and i have 12 of them.....

This isn't a topic about SSF, It should not in any way affect SSF unless they add (easy mode SSF) and even then it still won't affect you.

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SilentSymphony wrote:

This isn't a topic about SSF, It should not in any way affect SSF unless they add (easy mode SSF) and even then it still won't affect you.

my point is they aren't difficult to obtain and 50c on trade is literally nothing

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Toforto wrote:

I meean, I'm lvl99 and constantly dropping down to 0% exp, if I ran ritual in my maps I would actually never get any exp because of how rippy the mobs are lol
Those omens were like 100c last time I checked them on Faustus, way too expensive. That's why people are sad that the exp scarab got deleted, now my only way of getting 100 is doing like 50 sanctum runs all day and that's just boring. I always just get to 10% from doing maps then randomly die and go back to 0%.

sounds like your build needs to work on its defenses
there are tons of ways to hit 100 if that is your goal you might have to "gasp" adjust your build to not die for a while THE HORROR!

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RitualMurder wrote:

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SilentSymphony wrote:

This isn't a topic about SSF, It should not in any way affect SSF unless they add (easy mode SSF) and even then it still won't affect you.

my point is they aren't difficult to obtain and 50c on trade is literally nothing

50c certainly isn't "nothing", its a good amount of currency for the average player. And if you're like me and can't bear to use the trade site for any of the items Faustus has because you don't wanna whisper 50 people that don't respond, then you will have to buy the omen at a scam price of over 100c from the NPC auction house kek

That's way too much currency to be paying for just a once-per-map item that reduces your exp lost from 10% to 3%, and then you could just die again anyway. This is why people don't want the game to be so punishing when it comes to dying, the exp penalty among other things have grown tiresome and in my opinion, outdated.

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Toforto wrote:

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RitualMurder wrote:

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SilentSymphony wrote:

This isn't a topic about SSF, It should not in any way affect SSF unless they add (easy mode SSF) and even then it still won't affect you.

my point is they aren't difficult to obtain and 50c on trade is literally nothing

50c certainly isn't "nothing", its a good amount of currency for the average player. And if you're like me and can't bear to use the trade site for any of the items Faustus has because you don't wanna whisper 50 people that don't respond, then you will have to buy the omen at a scam price of over 100c from the NPC auction house kek

That's way too much currency to be paying for just a once-per-map item that reduced your exp lost from 10% to 3%, and then you could just die again anyway. This is why people don't want the game to be so punishing when it comes to dying, the exp penalty among other things have grown tiresome and in my opinion, outdated.

This really takes me back:


I used to have a much harsher stance on this topic but i also posted the concepts for these omens back in 2021 as a solution to alleviate the problem.

After really hearing from a lot of other peoples sides i just can't fight easy-mode being added anymore.

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SilentSymphony wrote:

We are responsible for our own actions and the actions we emulate from others.

And I suggested Ruthless because you seem from your posts to find the normal mode to be too easy.

Anyway this request isn't going anywhere even if the thread goes away more will be made and that's not going to garuntee easy mode will ever be added but it should be respected at some level that so many people are asking for it and if adding easy-mode is the ultimate death of the game for you then i would suggest finding the root cause of these complaints and solving it.

You bring up an excellent point of actions.

I made... 4 builds this league. All of them, on an insanely restricted budget/play.

This is how I get challenge out of SC.

ES bleed? On sub like 15d and doing ubers/T17 + all challenges?

Heavy strike bleed on a similar setup having the same results?

Pure phys bleed new spectres, of which you say are bad, probably the most insane thing I made?

And now retaliation eviscerate/crushing fist, which people say is "bad"? And I just killed Usirus before getting level 87 with it on dog gear.



SC trade can be made to make challenging for me. And it has to do with theory crafting, and limiting purchasing. The content is clearly to easy for me.


Ruthless would disable nearly all of this, do you know how many things change in ruthless? Its not just drop rate that changes in that mode.

For your reference:
I would never play that mode.

So many people are asking for it? I see like 3-4 people. So no, thats not how that works. I suggest finding the root cause of wanting an easy mode, as I already know why all of you wanting it, and approaching and solving that cause. There are resources out there to help but you guys have to first admit the problem is not the game.

Hope this helps!

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Toforto wrote:

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RitualMurder wrote:

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SilentSymphony wrote:

This isn't a topic about SSF, It should not in any way affect SSF unless they add (easy mode SSF) and even then it still won't affect you.

my point is they aren't difficult to obtain and 50c on trade is literally nothing

50c certainly isn't "nothing", its a good amount of currency for the average player. And if you're like me and can't bear to use the trade site for any of the items Faustus has because you don't wanna whisper 50 people that don't respond, then you will have to buy the omen at a scam price of over 100c from the NPC auction house kek

That's way too much currency to be paying for just a once-per-map item that reduced your exp lost from 10% to 3%, and then you could just die again anyway. This is why people don't want the game to be so punishing when it comes to dying, the exp penalty among other things have grown tiresome and in my opinion, outdated.

50c is literally nothing i can farm 500c in 1 day on ssf with ease using expedition and blight. On trade you should be able to triple that with little effort and a few trades.
again it sounds like your build is horrifically squishy if you are dying this much and needs to be adjusted. When i want to level i swap around a few points swap and gems and am much more careful with mods i put on maps its really not that hard.
Sounds like you just dont want to try.