I'm sick of zoom meta. (Speed creep created bad combat and game balance)

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Mmmtastyy#6154 wrote:

The whole point is to feel powerful and the faster your clear the more powerful you are.

You can't seriously believe anyone who says they enjoy a slower game, its possible they wern't very good at PoE1

Game just kept getting easier and easier. After 6+ years, you dont want to be handed the whole game on a spoon.

Majority of friends said - before they stopped supporting the poe1 weekly via shop - that it is getting easier, becoming too clunky, old.

Majority is done on day 2 with campaign approaching endgame and 100. These are often performance players which are bored after week1.. a huge amount of softcore community.. they logout, dont spend any money as its too easy.. and they dont have endgame left. Zoom zoom done. They dont necessarily die more often than hardcore but they can risk to try.

I can tell you that this is true for the good hardcore players too.. not for the mediocre which need alot help.

Nothing to do .. thats what you want? 2.5 month break?

Now this new poe2 game is released. Awesome, and fresh. I enjoy this. Friends are talking about it.

Someone mentioned earlier : how can you speak this way about d2. It made all possible.


i tell you.. development moved on. People dont speak about D One!! But it was needed to create something modern.. d two.. d three .. d4. Yet.. most speak only about d4. Its a generation shift.. favour. Target groups. Some buy with their pocket money.. weekly cosmetics. For sure the new generation which love the franchise.. and they dont .. in .. d1?

Thus development decided to focus and consolidate their support to cater for target groups. Amount of 60 year old players who loved d1 (and complain about d2..) and spend!!!! Money is different than 16 year old target group in the factor of 10000 to 1 or more. Be rather happy that you can encourage development to keep on with the good work.

Player base of d1 is not there any more, d2 would have declined earlier (and is now tiny due to d4/ poe2) if the increased effort would have been given to d4 instead d2.. which may be the rootcause for poe2s coming success. Its about market shares.. not about providing d1 for 30 players online which happily moved to d2 ( with some effort and acceptance)...d3..d4..poe2..

Asked marketing here why poe 1 was split amd not modernized as originally planned. Because new generation want poe2
. Not poe1 version 2. More action and fun.. no need to read books about dated mechanics.. just let me play.. let skill decide.. not theocrafting and than blind buildfollowing.

I even do enjoy free switching of skills/ tree useful to support my creativity.


Maybe that helps: diablo2 sold 180 000 units in week one - lol..are you serious. Guess diablo4.. 666 million revenue.. face it and understand what poe2 achieves here if it stays with the target group.

Stay behind this team modernizing the franchise and if you are clever you give up d1 erm poe1 early because it makes room for d2,d3.. no a better franchise poe2. I would understand if they shut it down (poe one) next year and see the benefits for innovation / and further refining the franchise we all love snd uniting player base/ streamline development. I hope this happens.

I hate double posts as this is so 1995... but this link is too good to pass by.

This player is one of best worldwide.. and what did he post?

https://x.com/lightee7?lang=de
poe2 good

Nothing like - please update poe1.

People move on.

yeh well they already upped the drops, not gonna last long m8

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Skiller2009#5689 wrote:

This player is one of best worldwide..

Now that was a good one! 10/10

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Mmmtastyy#6154 wrote:

The whole point is to feel powerful and the faster your clear the more powerful you are.

You can't seriously believe anyone who says they enjoy a slower game, its possible they wern't very good at PoE1

No, slow gameplay = better, because I actually enjoy fighting monsters. Interesting combat is only possible in slower paced gameplay: only then I can really combo my skills and debuffs, CC, etc. become meaningful.


The entire "skip entire mob packs or clear them at lightning speed to get as much loot as possible"-playstyle is just terrible.

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Sophianna#0164 wrote:

No, slow gameplay = better, because I actually enjoy fighting monsters. Interesting combat is only possible in slower paced gameplay: only then I can really combo my skills and debuffs, CC, etc. become meaningful.

1.) What meaningfull combos are you taslking about? There is only dodge, hit, dodged hit for 90% of the time and maybe a flamewall, cast combo every now and then.
2.) What debuffs are you managing? Feel free to name one or two.
3.) CC? What croud control skills do you have that I don't know anything about?

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AintCare#6513 wrote:

yeh well they already upped the drops, not gonna last long m8

Called it.. Fuck man. PoE1 combat didnt have as much room for skill expression as PoE2 and they just want to make PoE2 into PoE1 with better graphics what a god damn shame. GGG should just release the game to modders to let us make Project PoE2 like there's PD2.