The Multi-box Thread: How it ruins the game.

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yastru wrote:
what "announced currency wipe" are you insane ?!

i would never multibox but i have no burning desire to part from my hard earned orbs just because someone doesnt like how someone else is playing the game. d

if they wanted to make it illegal, they would. then use admin tools to monitor players and rely on "reports" and as punishment wipe players inventory & stash.

why do i need to suffer because of them ?

You are ALREADY suffering because of them.They don't want to make it illegal because its too much of a hassle trying to fight multiboxers.
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Faendris wrote:
It has nothing to do with luck, I do that on a consistent and regular basis. If I farm for an hour, I will have the equivalent of an exalted. If you take longer than 6 minutes for a docks run then you have to work on your build/itemization. If you get significantly less than one chaos each run, then you have to increase your item quantity (item quality is also nice but not that important). It is really that simple.

Just some pointers to make your life easier: in docks you mainly need fire resistance, other elemental resistances are not really important, chaos can be ignored alltogether. This gives you plenty of room for optmizations. Dual totem helps a lot, since you can loot while your totems do the job. I use run speed increase potions all the time and I have the layout of the docks memorized so that I can tell immediately when to turn back and when to continue in a given direction.

Just to make sure that this is absolutely clear: no luck involved, I do that on a regular and constant basis, every day, every hour.




Tell me your IIQ.

I just did 5 Docks runs with 96%, and the highlights of my drops were 2 Chance Orbs and an Alteration.
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Faendris wrote:
It has nothing to do with luck, I do that on a consistent and regular basis. If I farm for an hour, I will have the equivalent of an exalted. If you take longer than 6 minutes for a docks run then you have to work on your build/itemization. If you get significantly less than one chaos each run, then you have to increase your item quantity (item quality is also nice but not that important). It is really that simple.

Just some pointers to make your life easier: in docks you mainly need fire resistance, other elemental resistances are not really important, chaos can be ignored alltogether. This gives you plenty of room for optmizations. Dual totem helps a lot, since you can loot while your totems do the job. I use run speed increase potions all the time and I have the layout of the docks memorized so that I can tell immediately when to turn back and when to continue in a given direction.

Just to make sure that this is absolutely clear: no luck involved, I do that on a regular and constant basis, every day, every hour.



+1

Without sell loot i make 8 or 9 chaos/hour (just farm currency).

loot = 1 item at 3-7 exalted every 2 day (depend of luck) + item at 3-10 chaos.

So, multiboxing or no multiboxing there are rich and poor in this game. If u are poor you can not buy this one rich can buy. Its obvious.

The real problem in rpg/mmorpg is when a casual and poor player who have never loot only 1 item at 5 exalted say : OLOL BOT RUIN ECONOMY, OLOL MULTIBOXING RUIN ECONOMY..

Bot ruin economy in real money only. Multiboxing down price of hight currency but it that all.

Within multiboxing all good player who are time can be buy end game gear in 1 month. So hard...
ign : izbing
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izbing wrote:
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Faendris wrote:
It has nothing to do with luck, I do that on a consistent and regular basis. If I farm for an hour, I will have the equivalent of an exalted. If you take longer than 6 minutes for a docks run then you have to work on your build/itemization. If you get significantly less than one chaos each run, then you have to increase your item quantity (item quality is also nice but not that important). It is really that simple.

Just some pointers to make your life easier: in docks you mainly need fire resistance, other elemental resistances are not really important, chaos can be ignored alltogether. This gives you plenty of room for optmizations. Dual totem helps a lot, since you can loot while your totems do the job. I use run speed increase potions all the time and I have the layout of the docks memorized so that I can tell immediately when to turn back and when to continue in a given direction.

Just to make sure that this is absolutely clear: no luck involved, I do that on a regular and constant basis, every day, every hour.



+1

Without sell loot i make 8 or 9 chaos/hour (just farm currency).

loot = 1 item at 3-7 exalted every 2 day (depend of luck) + item at 3-10 chaos.

So, multiboxing or no multiboxing there are rich and poor in this game. If u are poor you can not buy this one rich can buy. Its obvious.

The real problem in rpg/mmorpg is when a casual and poor player who have never loot only 1 item at 5 exalted say : OLOL BOT RUIN ECONOMY, OLOL MULTIBOXING RUIN ECONOMY..

Bot ruin economy in real money only. Multiboxing down price of hight currency but it that all.

Within multiboxing all good player who are time can be buy end game gear in 1 month. So hard...




This is unbelievably stupid. If you are constantly picking up items that sell for so much, you're lucky. I seriously cannot stress this enough.

I should stream my Dock runs so you can see that a normal person gets a Chance Orb as their highest orb drop, and a stun threshold & 2 health regen chest with 2 sockets as their best rare.






I'm done arguing about this with spoiled 12 year olds.





P.S.
Did 5 more Dock runs. Only had 1 more Chance drop, and nothing but vendor trash rares. No 6-Links that you seem to be flooded with, no godly rings that seem to be coming out of your ears, and no high-end uniques that seem to make up your steady income percentage.

Because that's not how it actually goes for normal people. In a game designed entirely off of RNG, if you think you are rich because of your calculations and skill... you're completely fucking delusional. You wanna discuss skill, we can have a go at StarCraft, Counter Strike, Street Fighter............. You know, a real game. But an open beta RNG-based ARPG? No. You're just a lucksacker.
Last edited by ShadyC#1006 on Mar 28, 2013, 4:57:26 AM
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ShadyC wrote:
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Faendris wrote:
It has nothing to do with luck, I do that on a consistent and regular basis. If I farm for an hour, I will have the equivalent of an exalted. If you take longer than 6 minutes for a docks run then you have to work on your build/itemization. If you get significantly less than one chaos each run, then you have to increase your item quantity (item quality is also nice but not that important). It is really that simple.

Just some pointers to make your life easier: in docks you mainly need fire resistance, other elemental resistances are not really important, chaos can be ignored alltogether. This gives you plenty of room for optmizations. Dual totem helps a lot, since you can loot while your totems do the job. I use run speed increase potions all the time and I have the layout of the docks memorized so that I can tell immediately when to turn back and when to continue in a given direction.

Just to make sure that this is absolutely clear: no luck involved, I do that on a regular and constant basis, every day, every hour.




Tell me your IIQ.

I just did 5 Docks runs with 96%, and the highlights of my drops were 2 Chance Orbs and an Alteration.


That should be plenty. I am at only 70% item quantity (you were talking about quantity, right?). I do about 15 runs an hour and it is very uncommon for me to come up with less than one exalted equivalent. The only problem I have is that it is extremely boring to run docks all the time.

Are you sure that you pick up all relevant stuff and not just orbs? 5 runs with just 2 chance orbs and one alteration seem to be extremely unlucky to me. Never had that myself, I think. And i have don that for hours and hours.
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ShadyC wrote:
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izbing wrote:
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Faendris wrote:
It has nothing to do with luck, I do that on a consistent and regular basis. If I farm for an hour, I will have the equivalent of an exalted. If you take longer than 6 minutes for a docks run then you have to work on your build/itemization. If you get significantly less than one chaos each run, then you have to increase your item quantity (item quality is also nice but not that important). It is really that simple.

Just some pointers to make your life easier: in docks you mainly need fire resistance, other elemental resistances are not really important, chaos can be ignored alltogether. This gives you plenty of room for optmizations. Dual totem helps a lot, since you can loot while your totems do the job. I use run speed increase potions all the time and I have the layout of the docks memorized so that I can tell immediately when to turn back and when to continue in a given direction.

Just to make sure that this is absolutely clear: no luck involved, I do that on a regular and constant basis, every day, every hour.



+1

Without sell loot i make 8 or 9 chaos/hour (just farm currency).

loot = 1 item at 3-7 exalted every 2 day (depend of luck) + item at 3-10 chaos.

So, multiboxing or no multiboxing there are rich and poor in this game. If u are poor you can not buy this one rich can buy. Its obvious.

The real problem in rpg/mmorpg is when a casual and poor player who have never loot only 1 item at 5 exalted say : OLOL BOT RUIN ECONOMY, OLOL MULTIBOXING RUIN ECONOMY..

Bot ruin economy in real money only. Multiboxing down price of hight currency but it that all.

Within multiboxing all good player who are time can be buy end game gear in 1 month. So hard...




This is unbelievably stupid. If you are constantly picking up items that sell for so much, you're lucky. I seriously cannot stress this enough.

I should stream my Dock runs so you can see that a normal person gets a Chance Orb as their highest orb drop, and a stun threshold & 2 health regen chest with 2 sockets as their best rare.






I'm done arguing about this with spoiled 12 year olds.





P.S.
Did 5 more Dock runs. Only had 1 more Chance drop, and nothing but vendor trash rares. No 6-Links that you seem to be flooded with, no godly rings that seem to be coming out of your ears, and no high-end uniques that seem to make up your steady income percentage.

Because that's not how it actually goes for normal people. In a game designed entirely off of RNG, if you think you are rich because of your calculations and skill... you're completely fucking delusional. You wanna discuss skill, we can have a go at StarCraft, Counter Strike, Street Fighter............. You know, a real game. But an open beta RNG-based ARPG? No. You're just a lucksacker.


Cry cry my baby
ign : izbing
If you children are quite finished, I'll tl;dr this for you people:

Some people are more blessed by the RNG.

Others are not quite so fortunate.

If you think that the road to riches is paved with orbs and 20% gems in this game, you're doing it wrong.

Suppose the same people run docks, 2 for an example, for argument's sake let's say they get the same classes of orb and equipment drops.

Player 1 gets a ton of low orbs, a chance or two, maybe an alch/scour/fusing. They get a handful of rares, one or two of which can sell for a chaos or two. They can vendor these other rares and any magic items for alteration shards and alch shards. They find one fairly good rare, let's say a ring, which they can sell for maybe a gcp or 2. They also find a unique. It happens to be Kaom's sign. This is not including any 3l RGBs, 5l or 6l items, and so forth.

Player 2, who is assumed to have the same amount of drops, has the following found instead: 3 chances, 2 alch, a gcp, many decent rares worth 1-2 chaos, a rare 5l which can be bankrolled for some exalted, and a Shavronne's wrappings.

So who controls the RNG again to make everybody equally lucky or unlucky?

If you think that just because you have stacks of chaos, gcp and exalted, that doesn't mean that everybody has the same luck as YOU.

End of story, before I burst.
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ign : izbing
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izbing wrote:
l2p



argument invalidated.
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Faendris wrote:
Spoiler
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ShadyC wrote:
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Faendris wrote:
It has nothing to do with luck, I do that on a consistent and regular basis. If I farm for an hour, I will have the equivalent of an exalted. If you take longer than 6 minutes for a docks run then you have to work on your build/itemization. If you get significantly less than one chaos each run, then you have to increase your item quantity (item quality is also nice but not that important). It is really that simple.

Just some pointers to make your life easier: in docks you mainly need fire resistance, other elemental resistances are not really important, chaos can be ignored alltogether. This gives you plenty of room for optmizations. Dual totem helps a lot, since you can loot while your totems do the job. I use run speed increase potions all the time and I have the layout of the docks memorized so that I can tell immediately when to turn back and when to continue in a given direction.

Just to make sure that this is absolutely clear: no luck involved, I do that on a regular and constant basis, every day, every hour.




Tell me your IIQ.

I just did 5 Docks runs with 96%, and the highlights of my drops were 2 Chance Orbs and an Alteration.


That should be plenty. I am at only 70% item quantity (you were talking about quantity, right?). I do about 15 runs an hour and it is very uncommon for me to come up with less than one exalted equivalent. The only problem I have is that it is extremely boring to run docks all the time.

Are you sure that you pick up all relevant stuff and not just orbs? 5 runs with just 2 chance orbs and one alteration seem to be extremely unlucky to me. Never had that myself, I think. And i have don that for hours and hours.




That's what I'm saying.

Here - look. This is a screenshot of me wiping out a full screen of skeletons and ghosts, with TWO rare bosses:

Spoiler




Yes, I pick up everything that's relevant. But as you can see from my basic example of what normally drops, there is nothing relevant.

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