Changes to the Purposeful Harbinger Notable Passive

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Ageless_Emperion wrote:

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Anointedone wrote:

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No, the point is you lost value earlier rather than later.

THE FIRST THING GGG SAID when this came to light is that this mechanic would not survive past this league. So you made an investment in a highly volatile set of items who's value was guaranteed to collapse at the end of the league.

So the fact you chose to do this and the consequences of it are all on you.

Or did you think you'd somehow manage to use it and get rid of it for the same price while every other person was trying to do the same at the end of the league? Cause if that's the case you aren't fit to make these kinds of investments.

Are you dumb? For the vast majority of players, everything is worthless at the end of a league. I delete every standard character because standard is garbage. People are mad because GGG SPECIFICALLY stated it wasn't going to get nerfd, and to enjoy it while it lasts. So, a lot of people spent a lot of currency making these builds. Hell, even I wasn't going to invest in it until Bex said that, since I knew it was going to get nerfd. I even thought they would nerf it mid-league UNTIL Bex said not to worry. So, against my better judgement I went ahead with the build.

Thanks a lot Bex!

Am I dumb, no, it just so happens that my enjoyment of the game exists throughout and outside of the finite time window of a league, if you want to scoff at that, be my guest. That said I can also call you a pathetic tryhard who invested in something that was clearly an exploit and was going to clearly get nerfed no matter what they said. Your rage is impotent and your tears are delicious.

To be fair, I'm not even running whatever fortify shenanigans that makes you immortal. The least you could do is see where I and everyone else is coming from. Clearly, we all knew it was eventually going to get axed, but to reassure those of us who were holding off to enjoy it this league, well that's just unfair and poor business acumen.

Meanwhile players like myself will continue on the struggle bus, not even fathoming ever acquiring the currency needed to build something like that in the first place. I've probably accumulated around 10-15 exalts and somehow my characters feel worse after investing in them. So I have no currency and my builds still feel like dirt. I am indeed sad because bad :(

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Ageless_Emperion wrote:

People who can make educated decisions care, I also crossed out the fucking objectively false statements you so casually inserted in your post.

Also don't fucking kid yourself, you got this to exploit it for everything it was, stop pretending this is about GGG betraying your precious trust.

"People who can make educated decisions care" lol ...

I was in complete agreement with what the GGG said, this build will be nerfed at the end of the season.
AND OF THE SEASON, not after 2 days.


I avoid commenting on the financial part because it's a waste of time.

and they thought they could exploit all league

Love the ammount of salt in this post, good foor cooking!

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Anointedone wrote:

To be fair, I'm not even running whatever fortify shenanigans that makes you immortal. The least you could do is see where I and everyone else is coming from. Clearly, we all knew it was eventually going to get axed, but to reassure those of us who were holding off to enjoy it this league, well that's just unfair and poor business acumen.

I can agree to an extent, but this whole situation was made out of red flags so it really hard to have pity on people who chose to make that investment. Especially when most of them, when confronted, tend to wave a wad of cash (metaphorically) around to justify what they say. Also take into account that this whole fiasco took place while GGG is in quarantine and their communication is not at its best, so things probably could have gone better and fewer people could have been burned by this.

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Clannard wrote:

and they thought they could exploit all league

This.

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willianvon wrote:

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artradis wrote:

Got spammed for my dusty black cane yesterday, noticed (for reasons unknown to me) that people were scouring the market for it. Realized flippers were investing heavy and eventually sold mine for 80c.

Lols :D

what was the 'real' price for this item actually? in poe.trade it was like 1~10c

As I wrote I let mine go for 80c in the afternoon yesterday (~30 hours ago), but was subsequently spammed with more request for it for another hour or two (the trade system seems to have misbehaved a bit yesterday). I would guess the price kept rushing as flippers competed for buying up the market; I can't guess to an accurate amplitude of this pulse, the 2-day length of it is hilarious :)

Stop hating on Bex.

She is just the voice and face of someone else decisions, so unless we have a full post from the one behind this decision, stop hating a normal employee.


If you put ingame 250 new cluster jewels and you expect to dont have this situation ,you pretty much failed big time.

All type of broken mechanics should always be fixed as soon as possible to avoid exploiters but in this scenario you fucked up 2 full weeks of people playing your game and investing their own time.

And even more sad is the fact that you posted this fix after days of aura mtx discount where half of players needed multiple mtx to run their auras.....

I just hope next time there is an "Hype for the new league" people will remember this entire league and how every single part of a new league is "in progress" since the start.

Sorry for my poor english

i disagree, not because it doesnt need a nerf or im using it...

But because you ignore game breaking shit that has BROKEN the game for YEARS HH has been an absurdly abusive item (inspired learnings only add to the issue) since their release. Hell its why you said you wouldnt bring it back..then you did...and kept it in. Nothing like a character taht does just ALL the damage and just can not die if it wanted to because it has 500 buffs stacked at once. WHY you keep adding it back in, is beyond me. And while its certainly the most egregious broken thing in the game, it is by no means, the only one. Yet you ignore these things for YEARS, but hey lets nerf RF again. its been a league. IS RF broken? no. not even its oldest versions. it was almost impossible to get serious damage from it. but yeah. it needs another nerf. Tornado Shot? a skill that people have said is OP, and indeed IS OP since its release...nah its fine.

Explosive Arrow gets 5m+ DPS on shaper with minimal investment, its fine. (mind you this skill has also been OP since its release..in fucking closed beta) its only "real" nerf was when you removed shotgunning. Which didnt matter once you added 5000 items that can put its damage through the roof for 1-2c per.

You can make cycloners(again with minimal investment) that are very ahrd to kill and still do 3m+ shaper DPS. I could keep going on skills taht allow for quick clear with super high scale damage for small investments. Buff weak skills or change theri mechanic some to allow for faster clear? nah. that doesnt happen.

This new setup you are nerfing is not even as OP as HH/inspired learning builds. And easily costs as much. Yet this is what needs the nerf? So sick of your horrid balance.

PoE 2.0 was a great chance to nuke the items/skills that were broken by starting from scratch. A way to wipe the board clear from bad design decisions and make some actual good ones. Instead...you once again go with the horrid decision to keep all the old stuff in the game, you know to make sure it stays broken.

Oh and load times on client start in steam are still fucking ridiculous after how many years of steam client? 4 different PC's since its release and its STILL the only game ive ever played that has load times that long on steam.
And nothing like getting booted back to lobby because of it to start back over.

In short, get your shit together GGG.