EDIT: Atlas is saved.

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Present23 wrote:

Not sure if youre being serious or not but just because there are multiple ways to farm currency doesnt mean certain ways are more superior. im not saying burial chambers is 1000x better than farming atoll's. But if theres a slight push to it because of a very highly sought after card then that does exactly what i said.

person after quoted that he used lava lake to farm monoliths during legion. It worked for him but if he was only farming monoliths then glaciers would have found the monolith faster. You can be less efficient if you prefer and theres nothing wrong with it.

But my point is there will be more efficient ways and more prosperous maps and that in itself does limit the map diversity.

Atoll ? That's all you came up with, really ? Atoll or Burial chamber ?

YES, farming burial chamber because "OHHH THE DOCTOOOORRR OHHHH THAT'S OPPPP HH IS SO GOOOD" is being done by sheep mostly and I'm saying that many were making more currency farming other things, in a different way.

If you cannot understand that farming BC is not the only way to make good currency ( all options being relative to the other options in an open market of course ), then I suggest you try to think a bit more about what can be farmed and all the options that actually were available last league ( it's not just about the Atlas tbh ).

I hope that you can think out of this "the doctor farming religion".


By the way, do you realize that most people farming glacier were farming a white tier map ?
Do you realize that most of those sheep people didn't understand that farming high level maps for monoliths also gave other things and was ( if done right ) more profitable ?
Yes, you could elder glacier too ( not what most did apparently ), but then you need to uncomplete the guardian maps and fully commit to your elder shaping strategy, Johny_Snow was buying in bulk because nobody wanted to run the layout. He could have simply not unlocked the other t12 ( but one he could have eldered, if he wanted to ) and simply farmed it this way, because he had the option to do so, without needing to reach the shaper to farm a high level map.

He had the option to do so.

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Present23 wrote:

But my point is there will be more efficient ways and more prosperous maps and that in itself does limit the map diversity.

This almost sounds like "people are sheep so there is no point giving them options anyway".

seriously.
I'm not trying to attack you or anything, but reading this really sounds like it.

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Present23 wrote:

Again im not saying this atlas the way it is the solution but simply adding things to make the previous atlas of shaping one map or getting only one map to work is not the solution. I can see them saying only one seal allowed maybe.

this strat would also work for ssf to take off the watchstones and lower awakener levels to target farm. its just not as optimal and it shouldnt be.

That's a good point.

It's more convoluted than in the previous Atlas though, but that might just work, maybe we need to get used to the new Atlas more but ...
It feels convoluted for no sensible reason to me, fighting conquerors also isn't just an option, you kinda have to do it ( you could play with the elder/shaper influences or choose not to do it in the previous Atlas ).

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Present23 wrote:

If you leave only one and have 2 maps at t12 with one awakening level then you have somewhat the shaped map strat you are talking about ish (not as good as before obviously).

Not really, no. Sure, you can make it so that there's only 1 or 2 maps on some tiers, but without being able to block the maps that are adjacent to them on the atlas, you'll never be able to sustain those maps very well. Also, this only works for a very limited number of maps, and none of those maps are the maps I'd like to run.

I just came across this post while i had my own idea that i wanted to post, but i guess this is kinda in the same direction?

What if we just get the "unshaping orb" back (removes shaping), but instead of it unshaping the map, it simply makes the map act as if 1 less watchstone is placed.
That way, if you're at awakening level 8, you could single out any number of maps, and run pretty much only this one (or multiple if desired), for the price of the area level of this map being lower. Since the "nearby maps" arent lowered themselves, they cant drop and with the sheer insane map droprate that we have, it shouldnt be much of an issue to sustain this.

whenever people wants to farm 1-2 maps for the next 2 months it's their problem but don't take away the ability to do so.

personally this atlas while made "some" upgrades it's a downgrade too, it's either my RNG or the system is just stupid the bonus barely feels like it's in effect or map drops have been touched somewhere when making this atlas..



I shouldnt have issues to get red maps, in fact I could go 2-3 maps where I get no returns despite investing currency into them and the next map or 2 I get 1-2 red maps back to back, it's very weird.

I'm done with the league atlas wise, despite missing perandus manor and doryani's as usual I have 0 interest to go for 152 on awakening level too, because I don't think the effect itself is working as intented hell in 3.8 I had more maps drops than now..

this new atlas forces players to run alot of maps to reach a state where from the biggest pool you're still not getting anything or barely something.

this is my personal thing with the new atlas, sure others just want to farm burial chambers from day 1 to day 90.. not my style or case but the fact that I don't get more maps because they don't drop well that's a problem for me.

and of course chores in a game arent fun either, specially by how many maps it takes to reach the actual endgame for league players I have a feeling they will get burnout quicker than they expect.

Bump

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Xystre wrote:

whenever people wants to farm 1-2 maps for the next 2 months it's their problem but don't take away the ability to do so.

As if it is not possible anymore, buy and run them as people were used to do with t16.
Resistance to changes is where the frustration is coming from, everyone has the same chances to do things as before just by doing in different ways.

In my opinion my feedback would be to make it less grinding as it seriously takes ages to fill the atlas and thinking to do it every league is killing inside.

I also feel league after league are being more buggy on the launch, blight was not possible without a 2kEur station, here bugs in not spawning conquerors or difficulties in completing the story line because of bugs.

The recent noobs patch shows again we can't find middle-ground, from buggy unfair end game boss to a so easy fight to be done blind. Was enough just to keep the entrance clear.

Just few thought about the league so far, for the rest I am enjoying the vary of things you can do and many people are doing more currency than normal not even realizing, consequently enjoying more just because of this change.

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DarkJen wrote:

Just imagine doing all this 32 stones chore every league.

This makes me sad too.

yeah imagine playing the game feelsbadman

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satanttin wrote:

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DarkJen wrote:

Just imagine doing all this 32 stones chore every league.

This makes me sad too.

yeah imagine playing the game feelsbadman

Well, I play alot past days and got stuck at 25 stones.
Why so?!

No influence spawning anymore..
And last several times it was spawning, warlords just dropped nothing, No stones.

Fun?
Sure.

Can we manage this?
You know how?

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DarkJen wrote:

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satanttin wrote:

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DarkJen wrote:

Just imagine doing all this 32 stones chore every league.

This makes me sad too.

yeah imagine playing the game feelsbadman

Well, I play alot past days and got stuck at 25 stones.
Why so?!

No influence spawning anymore..
And last several times it was spawning, warlords just dropped nothing, No stones.

Fun?
Sure.

Can we manage this?
You know how?

well don't have 25 stones yet but think it's kinda weird they stop dropping at 25. just seems off maybe u doing something wrong like playing areas u already have all the stones from?

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satanttin wrote:

well don't have 25 stones yet but think it's kinda weird they stop dropping at 25. just seems off maybe u doing something wrong like playing areas u already have all the stones from?

Well yeah it feels like off.

And no, I play areas whats not covered. Just now I hav awoke influence with Al-Hezmin an region whats have only 2 stones retrieved. Her one of that two.. It means I should do her now, but will not get any stone again from this. Cuz shis already gave it there. And its seems more common the more stones you have obtained..