Why do we NOT have access to China cosmetics?

P2W in this case is any MTX that gives the purchaser an advantage over someone who didn’t purchase it. Stash tabs are as close to P2W as we get, but free currency pickup is a massive advantage over someone without it. Not only does it save time, but few people actually bother collecting all the goodies. Even trash goodies add up.

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DalaiLama wrote:

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Aim_Deep wrote:

This thread sucks without pics. I imagine it's about exclusivity to get them to buy more instead of what we have.

The Website itself seems to be more advanced (at least in this video by Tarke Cat) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IUP9Anc7is

There's a decent video on how the game is different here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK9GPX-se0U

Not sure about how valid the following analyses is - that allegedly shows extra character space:
http://fr.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2070686

Not an MTX, but the ranger seems to have a bit more hair:


Personally, I don't mind that they have a slightly different game.

Oh wow thank you for this post, now i'm jelly O_o !

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jlh165 wrote:

P2W in this case is any MTX that gives the purchaser an advantage over someone who didn’t purchase it. Stash tabs are as close to P2W as we get, but free currency pickup is a massive advantage over someone without it. Not only does it save time, but few people actually bother collecting all the goodies. Even trash goodies add up.

The only case I can think of where "an advantage over someone" makes sense is in a ladder or race situation. GGG could either disable it in those situations or have a race/ladder for both?

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Turtledove wrote:

The only case I can think of where "an advantage over someone" makes sense is in a ladder or race situation. GGG could either disable it in those situations or have a race/ladder for both?

What? How is that not an advantage? It can't be an advantage in a race/ladder and not the rest of the time. Even if you take it as a QoL change, all QoL changes are an advantage to those who don't use them. That's why loot filters aren't MTX purchases. That's why botting / multiple action macros of every form are violations of ToS. It gives an unfair advantage. And that is why P2W games make so much money...if you don't spend money then those who do get some advantage over you.

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jlh165 wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

The only case I can think of where "an advantage over someone" makes sense is in a ladder or race situation. GGG could either disable it in those situations or have a race/ladder for both?

What? How is that not an advantage? It can't be an advantage in a race/ladder and not the rest of the time. Even if you take it as a QoL change, all QoL changes are an advantage to those who don't use them. That's why loot filters aren't MTX purchases. That's why botting / multiple action macros of every form are violations of ToS. It gives an unfair advantage. And that is why P2W games make so much money...if you don't spend money then those who do get some advantage over you.

I see. I don't consider PoE a competitive game. I guess you do?

I consider botting a different issue. Botting has to do with third parties taking commercial advantage and destroying the game's economy. At least that's the way I see it.

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Turtledove wrote:

I see. I don't consider PoE a competitive game. I guess you do?

I consider botting a different issue. Botting has to do with third parties taking commercial advantage and destroying the game's economy. At least that's the way I see it.

It's not an issue of whether or not the game is competitive, which regardless of how you personally see it, it is for other some people. GGG makes no distinction between "competitive" and "non-competitive" accounts.

GGG is interactive. Unless you are SSF you interact with everyone else in trading at the very least. The very reason you want something for practical reasons means it provides a real in-game benefit someone not purchasing it would lack. Not to mention everyone is tied to the ladder rankings, even if most people don't have a shot at actually getting in.

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Btw, I disagree with the selling of stash tabs, or at the very least for default stash tabs to not have trade access. Sure you can still sell off the forums, but you run into the same time/hassle restraints from something like a loot-picking up bot following you. Several of the specialty tabs are nigh required to have proper organization and space restraints.

Additional tabs, sure, but default should be 6 standard tabs with public access (doesn't need the other benefits of premium), 1 currency tab, 1 fragment tab. The currency/fragment tabs could be dropped if stacks were greater outside of those tabs.

i'll buy MTX* for a pet to pick up portal scroll

PLS

Beautiful wallpapers those two above.

Even though I don't play SSF, I don't feel that I'm competing with anyone. If other people feel like they are competing with me I don't know how they could tell whether or not they are "winning". You might say, well my league achievement is only 18 and yours is higher. But I don't care and I've played in standard this league for a few weeks and went on a cruise to Mexico for a week. So, I don't know how valid such a conclusion would be anyway. Heck many leagues I don't even play in them. I only play in a league when after a week or two has passed my guild buddies say it's a good league mechanic.

I'm not saying anyone's opinion on this topic is right or wrong. Heck, GGG seems to agree with you more than me since they apparently have pets that gather loot but only release them for sale in China! :-) It would be nice to have such a thing and if someone else can't afford it then my view is that they should be happy that they can play such a great game for free or nearly free.

if poe continues on it's path, they could offer mtx that remove the cheap and blurry combat effects of bosses and masters and i would buy it.