Here's a preview of Cyclone in Path of Exile: Legion!

Turns out that stun thing was a false alarm.

When you spin, you're stun immune. Was worried they'd take it out.

Does my eyes deceive me or cyclone just got a 200% more as buff?

So since rate of attacks with cyclone is using base weapon speed it means there is 0 point getting any attack speed on trees/jewels ?

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arknath wrote:

So since rate of attacks with cyclone is using base weapon speed it means there is 0 point getting any attack speed on trees/jewels ?

Also wondering this. But hopefully your attack speed affects the base weapon speed?

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codetaku wrote:

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raics wrote:

That added damage is added up to the base before multiplying it with 56% so it isn't as huge as it seems.

This is completely irrelevant. It's still stronger than adding an additional abyssus onto your build, since any other sources of flat damage are multiplied by the same value. Just think about the strength with fb and voidforge.

That's the way they chose to buff it, can't say I agree personally, it opens some worm jars. And I agree they will have to do something about other sources of flat physical.

What I was saying was that it didn't seem like it favored low damage 1h weapons that strongly but that was before I found out that 2h weapons aren't getting buffed as much as I hoped. If they want to aim for 45% more endpoint dps with 2h compared to 1h they would need at least 75% more base dps, going from 45% to 60% won't cut it.

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pengant wrote:

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arknath wrote:

So since rate of attacks with cyclone is using base weapon speed it means there is 0 point getting any attack speed on trees/jewels ?

Also wondering this. But hopefully your attack speed affects the base weapon speed?

I don't see why it should affect it. Base attack speed is base attack speed. It is what you see on the weapon before any increases/more modifiers.

So if it is base attack speed only it will change my choises for ascendancy bigtime.


Also when it comes to facebreaker. Base attack speed for unarmed is 1.3 attacks per second which is a BIG yikes for cyclone attack rate. Base range is also low so your aoe won't be too too impressive. Facebreaker is good for skills where scaling flat added phys damage and attack speed. Since attack speed is out of the equation you only sit with disadvantages.

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arknath wrote:

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pengant wrote:

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arknath wrote:

So since rate of attacks with cyclone is using base weapon speed it means there is 0 point getting any attack speed on trees/jewels ?

Also wondering this. But hopefully your attack speed affects the base weapon speed?

I don't see why it should affect it. Base attack speed is base attack speed. It is what you see on the weapon before any increases/more modifiers.

So if it is base attack speed only it will change my choises for ascendancy bigtime.

From poewiki

Normal attacks and attack skills derive attack speed and damage from the weapon(s) equipped. This base speed can be increased by attack speed modifiers.

Would be super lame if attack speed didn't effect cyclone surely

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arknath wrote:

I don't see why it should affect it. Base attack speed is base attack speed. It is what you see on the weapon before any increases/more modifiers.

So if it is base attack speed only it will change my choises for ascendancy bigtime.

Don't spook people, what you're saying makes no sense on any level.

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raics wrote:

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arknath wrote:

I don't see why it should affect it. Base attack speed is base attack speed. It is what you see on the weapon before any increases/more modifiers.

So if it is base attack speed only it will change my choises for ascendancy bigtime.

Don't spook people, what you're saying makes no sense on any level.

Ehhh why doesn't it? Gem clearly states it uses 300 of BASE attack speed...

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arknath wrote:

Ehhh why doesn't it? Gem clearly states it uses 300 of BASE attack speed...

Yes, it uses 300% of your base attack speed as its base attack speed, it's called base because that's what you apply bonuses to afterwards.

That's the way they write the tooltip now, there's nothing on that gem that would suggest that attack speed bonuses don't apply.