Here's a preview of Cyclone in Path of Exile: Legion!

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BarryL wrote:

So I am guessing with all that flat damage, 1h will outclass 2h in terms of damage? Is there a point using a 2h instead of say, dual wield with cyclone now?

I doubt it, the base is still only 54%. The added flat should however make 1h more viable than previously but 2h is likely still optimal(i.e starforge slayer)

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IllustrativeCapital wrote:

Can I make Cyclone totems though? :^)

Please don't hate me for this question. Since it's a channeled spell that lasts for a while, does it receive boosts from "Damage Over Time"?
Or are only debuffs affected by DoT?

Cyclone isnt spell nor ranged attack, so no.

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BarryL wrote:

So I am guessing with all that flat damage, 1h will outclass 2h in terms of damage? Is there a point using a 2h instead of say, dual wield with cyclone now?

maybe 2h is 11 weapon range when 1h is 9 ?

Still, 2h will have 60% more damage this patch
and don't forget 2h vs 1h(dual wield)
4.5 X starforge dmg better than 2.25 x main hand dmg + 2.25 x off hand dmg

and on top of that, 56% effectiveness so flat dmg halve in real...

so, one punch man if you go heavy strike (facebreaker ofc)
1000 punchs man if you go cyclone

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e1337donkey wrote:

56-85 is far more phys damage then I expected.. especially for cyclone geezz..

ya it basically just got a big aoe and massive physical damage buff.

will be interesting to see other gems and what type of numbers they'll have.

voidforge is going to be mighty MIGHTY nice this league

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Kuroyuki wrote:

56% based damage + added 56 to 85 physical attack damage

Good job devs, we will ignore 2h and all go Dual-Wield

did you even try to run a simple math behind Dual Wield vs 2h while using Cyclone? lol

Hint, add attack speed into calculation as well?

That added damage is added up to the base before multiplying it with 56% so it isn't as huge as it seems. Depends how much they buffed 2h, if it's really by 50-60% these flat damage numbers are on point.

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Kuroyuki wrote:

56% based damage + added 56 to 85 physical attack damage

Good job devs, we will ignore 2h and all go Dual-Wield

did you even try to run a simple math behind Dual Wield vs 2h while using Cyclone? lol

Hint, add attack speed into calculation as well ?

It has 54% dmg effectiveness so its a little more than half of 56-85 that actually gets added to the skill

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Bex_GGG wrote:

channelling?
thats the worst thing to do with cyclone!
havent you thought about cwc? i thought that was the sole reason to NOT give it that tag

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Feredhel wrote:

thats the worst thing to do with cyclone!
havent you thought about cwc? i thought that was the sole reason to NOT give it that tag

CoC is currently better than CwC.

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xMustard wrote:

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e1337donkey wrote:

56-85 is far more phys damage then I expected.. especially for cyclone geezz..

ya it basically just got a big aoe and massive physical damage buff.

will be interesting to see other gems and what type of numbers they'll have.

voidforge is going to be mighty MIGHTY nice this league

or they nerf %dammage conversion from 300% to 150%.
easy fix
not game breaking
i guess same goes on voidflechter

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raics wrote:

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Kuroyuki wrote:

56% based damage + added 56 to 85 physical attack damage

Good job devs, we will ignore 2h and all go Dual-Wield

did you even try to run a simple math behind Dual Wield vs 2h while using Cyclone? lol

Hint, add attack speed into calculation as well?

That added damage is added up to the base before multiplying it with 56% so it isn't as huge as it seems. Depends how much they buffed 2h, if it's really by 50-60% these flat damage numbers are on point.

apparently the 2h buff goes to 60% over 1h, where as it already has 45% boost over 1h. meaning it should be buffed an additional 15% instead of actually getting buffed by 60%.