Here’s an early look at the Gladiator Ascendancy in Path of Exile: Legion!

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

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zzang wrote:

Still frenzy and endurance charges ON Kill? Thats so patch 2.0....

You care for the increases only, you get charges from everywhere nowadays with the the triple quadruple implicit + enchantment power crepes.

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xMustard wrote:

what is the challenger charge cap at default?

10 more suggests something like 20-25, maybe? so lets say 30. thats 60% more attack speed and movement speed

more attack speed is pretty huge. just solidifies how useless raider is (supposedly a high attack speed ascendancy)

Even 10 is too much to be honest. Think about it, a Frenzy charge is 4% - now imagine if a single node gave you 5 frenzy charges on rare or unique hit.

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CaptainWARLORD wrote:

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

Its 20% more attack speed, thats gonna = 20% more dps right? Its 4am so someone correct my brain if im not with it but I think thats 20% more dps.

Let's do some math, shall we?

We are gonna use Lvl 20 Multistrike and Lvl 20 Ancestral Protector.

Multistrike gives 94% more melee attack speed. Ancestral Protector gives 20% more attack speed.

We invested a decent amount into attack speed while dual wielding Foils with T1 attack speed, so our base APS before multipliers is 8 attacks per second. Okay?

8 * 1.94 * 1.2 = 18.62 APS (rounded)

Now, let's add this multiplier:

8 * 1.94 * 1.2 * 1.2 = 22.35 APS (rounded)

Total net gain: 20.032% more DPS

It basically is 20% more DPS, but it's arguably better than 20% more damage, not only for QoL, but because a lot of the skills scale best with attack speed, especially when paired with Life on Hit. Molten Strike Glad comes to mind.

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CaptainWARLORD wrote:

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Samanie wrote:

And probably constant 50% damage reduction with the new block to dr passive.

You would not ever, ever take that jewel on a Glad. Unless for some specific meme reasons.

The whole point of Block is to take as little average damage as possible. As a Glad you have no problems capping Block for both attacks and spells, thus taking that jewel would instantly undermine the entire Ascendancy. Blocked hits deal no damage, but with that jewel you always take half the damage anyway.

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Aynix wrote:

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CaptainWARLORD wrote:

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Samanie wrote:

And probably constant 50% damage reduction with the new block to dr passive.

You would not ever, ever take that jewel on a Glad. Unless for some specific meme reasons.

The whole point of Block is to take as little average damage as possible. As a Glad you have no problems capping Block for both attacks and spells, thus taking that jewel would instantly undermine the entire Ascendancy. Blocked hits deal no damage, but with that jewel you always take half the damage anyway.

You are wrong. In PoE the only thing that can kill you are oneshots. What is the only thing that can save you from oneshots? Damage reductions, NOT BLOCK. If the new block node ignore block cap and lets you have damage reduction for 100% of the time its literally the best node that there is for Gladiator.

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Aynix wrote:

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CaptainWARLORD wrote:

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Samanie wrote:

And probably constant 50% damage reduction with the new block to dr passive.

You would not ever, ever take that jewel on a Glad. Unless for some specific meme reasons.

The whole point of Block is to take as little average damage as possible. As a Glad you have no problems capping Block for both attacks and spells, thus taking that jewel would instantly undermine the entire Ascendancy. Blocked hits deal no damage, but with that jewel you always take half the damage anyway.

You are wrong. In PoE the only thing that can kill you are oneshots. What is the only thing that can save you from oneshots? Damage reductions, NOT BLOCK. If the new block node ignore block cap and lets you have damage reduction for 100% of the time its literally the best node that there is for Gladiator.

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Aynix wrote:

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CaptainWARLORD wrote:

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Samanie wrote:

And probably constant 50% damage reduction with the new block to dr passive.

You would not ever, ever take that jewel on a Glad. Unless for some specific meme reasons.

The whole point of Block is to take as little average damage as possible. As a Glad you have no problems capping Block for both attacks and spells, thus taking that jewel would instantly undermine the entire Ascendancy. Blocked hits deal no damage, but with that jewel you always take half the damage anyway.

You are wrong. In PoE the only thing that can kill you are oneshots. What is the only thing that can save you from oneshots? Damage reductions, NOT BLOCK. If the new block node ignore block cap and lets you have damage reduction for 100% of the time its literally the best node that there is for Gladiator.