Since GGG forced lab down our throats, how about some protection from lab carries that quit or die?

what the fuck is a lab carry ?

ah, the thing that enables people to skip parts of the game they dont like instead of shutting their mouth, grinding their teeth and persevering through it ?

hence why I always say todays gaming is in the toilet. people are too entitled. no one wants to solve problems, either they let someone else solve them or circumvent them.

I just skipped all the way to the end to say what has probably been already said about a dozen times: how about you just do the lab yourself?

I hate to be elitist, but when I see requests for cruel lab carries I always think: cruel lab? Who can’t do cruel lab?

Now there was a time where Uber Lab was a challenge for some builds, that is definitely true. But with the power creep in this game, that just isn’t true anymore. You can probably TRY to make the worst build ever and fail over and over, but you really have to go out of your way.

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Fruz wrote:

WOW LOL

Did you even read what I wrote ?
Did your brain conveniently hid everything that was not convenient to your agenda or something ?
lol
just lol

Everything I need to answer your silly post is in the things that you just quoted, like wtf seriously.

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Fruz wrote:

You have no actual useful evidence, get real.
About the same handful of people being the majority of messages in a huge circle jerking crap thread merely means that there is something wrong with them, nothing more.

/rofl
You realize how I didn't mention "every content" but just lab ? Do you realize why ? lol!
What you said is about as smart and relevant as saying "not everybuild is able to kill a10 Kitava", just so that you know ... ( in the context of the labyrinth, obviously ).
Now feel free to think about how very bad you are at the game or not if your build can't kill a10 Kitava, and apply this to the lab.

WHAT?
I made a strawpoll about lab ? what kind of new fallacy is that ? Can you show me lol ?

Of course you can't show it.
By the way, if you have any strawpoll with a significant-enough number of people in it so that it can have any actual meaning, by any means, show it.

But you just can't, so ...

I do know that Fruz does like to lie when it serves his agenda here on the forum. For example he made up a lie that I always claim before every new release that GGG is going to move the ascendancy points outside the loathsome labyrinth. Like most lies, Fruz's lie about me is based off a kernal of truth in this lie. The kernal of truth is that early after the release of the horrible labyrinth content I predicted that GGG would have to fix this or at least make the content much less loathsome. GGG has done exactly that. They have reduced trials to a small fraction of the original requirement. They have reduced the first two labs so that very little of the bad trap content is required to complete them. So this is all good.

My belief for multiple releases since the last changes to labyrinth is that GGG has done almost all that they possibly can short of completely separating the ascendancy points from the lab. The main exceptions being that there should be a way to continue progress in the lab on a disconnect and the availability of the endgame labyrinth should be made much more predictable without requiring Global 820.

So the bottom line is that I have not been predicting more changes to the lab in a very long time and I have not ever predicted that GGG would in fact do what needs to be done which is to separate the ascendancy points from the lab. Also, the early predictions that I did make have actually come to pass. Fruz showed a complete disregard of the truth in making this false claim that I have been predicting every league that GGG was going to change/rework the lab.


Here's more detail on that lie that Fruz told about me on the forum here.

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Turtledove wrote:

I do know that Fruz does like to lie when it serves his agenda here on the forum. For example he made up a lie that I always claim before every new release that GGG is going to move the ascendancy points outside the loathsome labyrinth.

I did say that you hade been systematically saying that you believe that GGG was going to remove the ascendancy points from the lab, or radically change it.

Which ... you did.
I don't know if you've been doing that recently, I really can't be bothered reading what you write on the forum (I did pick up those few first lines of your post though.)

:)

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Fruz wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

I do know that Fruz does like to lie when it serves his agenda here on the forum. For example he made up a lie that I always claim before every new release that GGG is going to move the ascendancy points outside the loathsome labyrinth.

I did say that you hade been systematically saying that you believe that GGG was going to remove the ascendancy points from the lab, or radically change it.

Which ... you did.
I don't know if you've been doing that recently, I really can't be bothered reading what you write on the forum (I did pick up those few first lines of your post though.)

:)

If you don't know something then then don't lie about it. You can't be "bothered" is not an excuse for making up lies. If one tells an untruth because they can't be "bothered" then, they are told by multiple people that it was a joke and then you're told that your statement is not true but you continue to push your false narrative then it is firmly in the category of a deliberate lie.

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Turtledove wrote:

If you don't know something then then don't lie about it. You can't be "bothered" is not an excuse for making up lies. If one tells an untruth because they can't be "bothered" then, they are told by multiple people that it was a joke and then you're told that your statement is not true but you continue to push your false narrative then it is firmly in the category of a deliberate lie.

wow, so much "lie" and "untrue" in one post!

whatever :-)

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Turtledove wrote:

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Fruz wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

I do know that Fruz does like to lie when it serves his agenda here on the forum. For example he made up a lie that I always claim before every new release that GGG is going to move the ascendancy points outside the loathsome labyrinth.

I did say that you hade been systematically saying that you believe that GGG was going to remove the ascendancy points from the lab, or radically change it.

Which ... you did.
I don't know if you've been doing that recently, I really can't be bothered reading what you write on the forum (I did pick up those few first lines of your post though.)

:)

If you don't know something then then don't lie about it. You can't be "bothered" is not an excuse for making up lies. If one tells an untruth because they can't be "bothered" then, they are told by multiple people that it was a joke and then you're told that your statement is not true but you continue to push your false narrative then it is firmly in the category of a deliberate lie.

To be fair why did you expected something else from him? He has been farming posts since God knows how long ago with a ratio of 1/1000 of helpful posts versus bullshit/deflecting posts.

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Legatus1982 wrote:

This is where we are with you Fruz. There's a 790 page thread, no other thread in the history of POE has ever even come close to that, but you don't accept it because of "circle jerking".

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/504429

You were saying?

I have bumped heads with both Fruz and Turtledove on different issues. I have also agreed with them on different issues. they are both passionate and unwavering on the stances they take. For me , this is why we have discussions.

As long as there is room for discussion, disagreements have less of a chance of devolving into conflicts. I think that is why moderators do not involve themselves in the discussions that much on these forums.

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Shovelcut wrote:

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Legatus1982 wrote:

This is where we are with you Fruz. There's a 790 page thread, no other thread in the history of POE has ever even come close to that, but you don't accept it because of "circle jerking".

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/504429

You were saying?

damn this was too easy

do you think he will man up and admit that he said something that was 100% false ?