Since GGG forced lab down our throats, how about some protection from lab carries that quit or die?

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Turtledove wrote:

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robmafia wrote:

the ONLY way it could be repetitive "DUE TO the one try mechanic" is failure.

literally.

the ONLY possibility.

like i said, reading comprehension.

Okay, here's three examples. There's probably more.

Go into lab and after being there realize that you want to change pantheon or an item or a flask. OOps, one can't because of the one try mechanic.

Go into lab and fill your inventory and want to go to town. Oops, one can't because of the one try mechanic.

Go into lab and worry about dying because then you have to repeat the whole loathsome content from the beginning but not die.

You're not having a reading comprehension problem. What kind of a problem is it though? Intelligence? Imagination? Just tendency to jerkiness?

WAT

0/3

unless you mean leaving, which is *drum roll*

FAILURE


FACT: the ONLY (and yes, i mean ONLY. literally. the ONE scenario) way it's repetitive "DUE TO the one try mechanic" is to fail it.


failure is part of that guy's well-thought premise.

otherwise, it's just repetitive. and not "DUE TO the one try mechanic," as it was brilliantly stated.



this isn't rocket surgery. in fact, this is a very simple concept that's tied to a very short premise. and one that's been highlighted in pink for visibility.

lolz @ 3 different people arguing for a 4th person's scientifically invalid claim.

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Turtledove wrote:

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robmafia wrote:

the ONLY way it could be repetitive "DUE TO the one try mechanic" is failure.

literally.

the ONLY possibility.

like i said, reading comprehension.

Okay, here's three examples. There's probably more.

Go into lab and after being there realize that you want to change pantheon or an item or a flask. OOps, one can't because of the one try mechanic.

Go into lab and fill your inventory and want to go to town. Oops, one can't because of the one try mechanic.

Go into lab and worry about dying because then you have to repeat the whole loathsome content from the beginning but not die.

You're not having a reading comprehension problem. What kind of a problem is it though? Intelligence?Imagination? Just tendency to jerkiness?

It's that one.

Nobody sees dcing from lab as failure. He just made that up because he can't ever pull back once he started.

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Miská wrote:

It's that one.

Nobody sees dcing from lab as failure. He just made that up because he can't ever pull back once he started.

i noticed that you never explained how we can ascend va DCing.

yes, it's a failure. OBVIOUSLY.

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robmafia wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

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robmafia wrote:

the ONLY way it could be repetitive "DUE TO the one try mechanic" is failure.

literally.

the ONLY possibility.

like i said, reading comprehension.

Okay, here's three examples. There's probably more.

Go into lab and after being there realize that you want to change pantheon or an item or a flask. OOps, one can't because of the one try mechanic.

Go into lab and fill your inventory and want to go to town. Oops, one can't because of the one try mechanic.

Go into lab and worry about dying because then you have to repeat the whole loathsome content from the beginning but not die.

You're not having a reading comprehension problem. What kind of a problem is it though? Intelligence? Imagination? Just tendency to jerkiness?

WAT

0/3

unless you mean leaving, which is *drum roll*

FAILURE


FACT: the ONLY (and yes, i mean ONLY. literally. the ONE scenario) way it's repetitive "DUE TO the one try mechanic" is to fail it.


failure is part of that guy's well-thought premise.

otherwise, it's just repetitive. and not "DUE TO the one try mechanic," as it was brilliantly stated.



this isn't rocket surgery. in fact, this is a very simple concept that's tied to a very short premise. and one that's been highlighted in pink for visibility.

lolz @ 3 different people arguing for a 4th person's scientifically invalid claim.

It is not failure if one doesn't leave. The third option, leaving doesn't even make sense. I'll have to assume that it reading comprehension because you didn't even read that far?

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Turtledove wrote:

It is not failure if one doesn't leave. The third option, leaving doesn't even make sense. I'll have to assume that it reading comprehension because you didn't even read that far?

wtf are you talking about?

if the run is not successful, it's a failure. your scenarios don't even make sense. 'i wanted to change pantheon?' - so what? are you backpedaling from exiting (FAILURE) to... just someone never leaving but never advancing because they want to change their pantheon?

WAT

that has nothing to do with the person's claim that you're championing.

pink for lolz. i can has grammar.



FACT: the ONLY (and yes, i mean ONLY. literally. the ONE scenario) way it's repetitive "DUE TO the one try mechanic" is to fail it.

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irony. when it's make pink and then literally explained twice. and it's a reallllllllllly simple concept. [/quote]

oh.

never mind, i'm talking to someone who doesn't know what irony is.

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brushmonkey wrote:

never mind, i'm talking to someone who doesn't know what irony is.

says the one that doesn't know what irony is, doesn't know what the argument is, still never backed up his claim, and also can't use tags?

a+

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robmafia wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

It is not failure if one doesn't leave. The third option, leaving doesn't even make sense. I'll have to assume that it reading comprehension because you didn't even read that far?

wtf are you talking about?

if the run is not successful, it's a failure. your scenarios don't even make sense. 'i wanted to change pantheon?' - so what? are you backpedaling from exiting (FAILURE) to... just someone never leaving but never advancing because they want to change their pantheon?

WAT

that has nothing to do with the person's claim that you're championing.

pink for lolz. i can has grammar.



FACT: the ONLY (and yes, i mean ONLY. literally. the ONE scenario) way it's repetitive "DUE TO the one try mechanic" is to fail it.

You are really grasping at straws. You are ignoring everything else he wrote except that one phrase that you have become stuck on. Since you need me to hold your hand and walk you through it.

Here's the full post.

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Soulscar1 wrote:

I absolutely agree with OP in that labs are a mandatory means of progression rather than "choice content". Yes they absolutely suck regardless as they are generic, repetitive, long winded and tedious due to the one try mechanic.

Don't get me wrong I have enjoyed labs with VERY specific builds for helmet enchants but other than that very specific build they just suck. I don't know why you have to go though the trials to attempt trials tedium either.

It would be good if they offered something else rather than the means of mandatory progression. Ascendancy should just be given as and when you reach a certain level imo.

You said that the ONLY thing he could mean was that he failed a lot. That is a ridiculous position to take. You said there was no other explanation. I gave three alternative explanations. A fourth explanation was that he didn't really mean "due to" in that sentence. I'm sure that there are many other alternative explanations though.

Following I'll give more detail how those three alternative explanations I gave work without having to fail in the lab run.

When I've played VP builds, there have been multiple occasions where I went into do lab and forgot to switch the pantheon to Ryslatha minor god before entering, in order to refill life flasks. Rather than quitting and starting over I just suffered through and completed the lab. This is a valid reason to have an opinion of dislike of the lab due to the one try mechanic. Did I fail the lab, NO, contrary to your absurd position that I must have failed the lab in this case.

When playing normally, I pick up all rare items and all magic belts and rings and all white agate amulets, gavels, hammers, and leather belts. In the lab, I frequently fill up my inventory and have to not pick up some of these items. I don't quit lab and fail and then start all over like you have absurdly asserted. Instead I might switch item on the ground for an item in my inventory. This is a valid reason to have an opinion of dislike of the lab due to the one try mechanic. Did I fail the lab, NO, contrary to your absurd position that I must have failed the lab in this case.

When playing normally I am less concerned about dying than when I play the loathsome labyrinth because I don't want to die or get disconnected and have to repeat the whole loathsome content from the beginning. This makes the lab much less fun to play for me. This is a valid reason to have an opinion of dislike of the lab due to the one try mechanic. Did I fail the lab, NO, contrary to your absurd position that I must have failed the lab in this case.

You really are being a dense person here but, I hope that I have explained it in enough detail that you can now follow the logic that demonstrated that you are plainly wrong.

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Fruz wrote:

I destroyed uber-Izaro SSF HC with viper strike.

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Fruz wrote:

Of course, you failed so it can't be possible.
I actually made the char after I saw you complain quite a lot about it, because I was curious.

The leveling was a of course breeze, completely.
I knew that saying that viper strike was bad against bosses was complete nonsense, but I wanted to see how strong it would actually be.

I switched to cyclone as a main setup, I could put viper strike back in a 4L and kill uber Izaro with it but ... I have other things to do with my time atm honestly.

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Fruz wrote:

I designed a cycloner and could beat all bosses until Uber Izaro with a 4L or 5L (I think I was using the poison gloves, it's been a while though) viper strike setup.
Cyclone ended up outperforming VS in a cyclone optimized setup OMAGAD THIS IS SO SURPRISING!!!
/s
Cyclone might be one of the most used skill among melee skill atm also tbh.

So it was a viper strike build you changed to cyclone, or a cyclone build that you used with viper strike?

*looks at Fruz character list, sees no cyclone builds in SSFHC*

The lies are becoming so hilariously obvious, it's 100% clear that you've never played a viper strike character in SSFHC in your entire life and you have no idea what you're talking about and neither does your buddy

I'll wait for you to post your video of SSFHC viper strike character leveling from 1 to uber izaro, actually no because I know you "don't have the time" despite having plenty of time to post all over the forums every day about how "bad" people you've never played with are