Since GGG forced lab down our throats, how about some protection from lab carries that quit or die?
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Some people really don't get it. Most people get carries not because they can't do it, but because lab is absolutely shit tier content.
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" Too bad. Learn to DEAL with IT. Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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" Well GGG gives them the freedom to do that, so no big deal. |
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" Good and intelligent players don't bother with carries because they don't like it, they do it quickly and get done with it themselves if they don't like it. Players who suck at the lab and don't like it might pay carries though. SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading. Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Jan 3, 2019, 2:41:30 AM
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" Exactly this. If the content isn't a problem difficulty-wise, why not just spend ten minutes getting it done? Paying someone to carry you won't save much or any time since you still have to go through the labyrinth. All the "carrier" does is kill the enemies and bosses - ie. remove the more interesting aspects of the labyrinth, and reduce the entire experience to a boring walk. If you don't like the labyrinth because it's boring, why would you pay someone to make it even more boring? None of it makes sense. There are two reasons why people use "carriers": 1) The "carriers" are stronger in combat, or controlled by a more experienced player who's more able to deal with the various obstacles, traps and bosses. 2) The buyer is a hardcore character, and doesn't want to lose hardcore status, so employs another player to act as a meat-shield to do all the work. If the "carrier" happens to die, he would lose his hardcore status, but the buyer wouldn't and could quickly quit/escape if that happened. So if we take on face value the claim that the buyer's strength and capabilities aren't the problem, the only explanation that jumps out is that he/she is probably the kind of Hardcore League player who is ever-prepared to use a logout macro to preserve his/her Hardcore status - ie. just a symptom of the reluctance to take any form of risk demonstrated by a good portion of the Hardcore community. Which begs the question, why even choose to be *in* Hardcore League if you're just going to use a variety of tricks and loopholes to remove the possibility of death entirely? Hardcore is supposed to be a measure of skill, not of the ability to quit the game on-time, or buy assistance for risky tasks. |
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" The lab carry business is going just as strong as it has ever been. Every time I'm in 820 I see lab carry posts, even after only a minute, as well as those looking for a carry. I don't see how this can be difficult for you to understand. Certain builds are specifically designed around completing lab. These builds can both do lab faster and with less risk than non-lab builds. Why then would you waste your time and risk your character doing it yourself? This isn't a single player game, it's a game run online through the internet and I've already lost a character to laggy traps before, I'm not putting up with it again. [Removed by Support] my evasion is so high i only insta rip sometimes ----- Bug Fixes: People were using cyclone for actual melee builds, so we nerfed it and made blade vortex. Also, we went ahead and made cyclone great for CoC casters while we were at it. Last edited by Brian_GGG#0000 on Jan 3, 2019, 9:14:11 AM
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" Shitty content? Probably. Boring? Definitely yes! However, in current state of the game every “endgame capable” build can complete it without any problem. Traps can be trivialized with flasks or teleport skills, Izaro is like T8-10 Incursion architect or even weaker. Any decent build can do eternal lab these days. So, from my point of view, if somebody want to buy “lab carry”, he is strongly underleveled for it (I carried such people myself, uber lab on lvl 54 or so) or his build is real shit, which will stay shitty even with full ascendency. To conclude, although lab is shitty and outdated place, in each league players spend max. 1.5 hours there, with all characters altogether, unless they run specialized lab runner. Not big deal, when we take into consideration, there was players who spent whole league in one, particular map :) |
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" WAT 1. to be self-sufficient 2. to actually play the game 3. to not have to deal with scammers and griefers and failed carries i could go on and on, if you'd like. [Removed by Support]
"Your forum signature was removed as it was considered to be inappropriate and a breach of our Code of Conduct." ...it was quotes. from the forum. lolz! |
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" And aaaaaall of it is some irrelevant antagonizing nonsense. Good job. Point stands, only people that are not good at doing lab (or the game in general ? at least to some extent) need lab carries. Any good players can go through lab with any correct build, period. No problem if you are not one of those, trying to find excuses is 'cute' though haha. I didn't quote the very obnoxious part, hopefully it will just be wiped by a mod like it should be so ... SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading. Last edited by Brian_GGG#0000 on Jan 3, 2019, 9:15:09 AM
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" Whoes even talking about boring? You make up something and then use an argument for it. It's hilarious. What do you not get about lab being just shit content. People pay for carries because they just can't be bothered with shit content. I get carries all the time on chars that would kill Izaro in 1 sec. I just don't want to do it, because it's again shit tier content. And honestly I have never even met anyone who goes like 'yey lab'. It's a universal forced upon content that nobody really likes, except for a few. |
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