3.5 Abyssal Summoner guide

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Should I be vaaling yellow maps?

I read that tier 10 maps are worthwhile. I read and watched guides that say you have to use all your sextants, use chaos orbs, and use chisels for tier 9+ maps. They say it is profitable long run. I tried this and it was not looking good long run, so I stopped. What probably would work though is using item rarity instead of faster casting for phantasms. maybe get some IIR or IIQ on belt, gloves, amulet. You might find this drops more sellable items.

After fooling around with all this crap, I find its easier just to hoard rares. Then sell sets for 2 chaos each once stash gets full. You'll make an exalt worth of chaos without spending too much time.

if i could chime in with currency help:

https://i.imgur.com/HXyx2xR.png

i use this and try my best to get rank 3 currency/div cards/good scarabs.

run delves with flares/dynamite, there are hidden stashes of currency down there, could get lucky.

OP said in a different post he got his staff via beastcrafting in SSF. could be worthwhile to try and beastcraft some items - again - could get lucky.

i personally dont vaal maps under t11. i dont chisel anything under t11 as well. i havent made much currency, but ive accumulated lots of chisels and vaals and can liquidate them any time i want. i'm really unlucky this league with raw currency drops but i feel like RNG gods will bless me soon ;)

pick up ilvl 81+ elder maces and try and craft them. everyones running arc/winter orb and you could land a nice craft and sell for fat profit.

Is anyone using Dread Banner? I need to check it out in PoB when I get home but it seems like it might be worth it if you can afford the mana reservation. For instance if you have some -manares nodes and are using Hatred and Purity you can probably afford to add it in too.

(grimlock9999 might be especially interested in this for their physical skeletons build - I think if you are dealing pure physical damage it works out to a 10+% more multiplier?)

now as level 90 i find the damage to do pretty well and just took some away to focus on life and evasion atm for abyssal i am just using half of it as minion boost and the other for chaos resist since syndicate us it, im also running arctic amour / haste and stone golem idk about chaos golem for more defense.

while maping i find myself avoiding physical reflect/no mana, life regeneration/ and temporal chain. though i have to say i have ran it with these mods it is doable but a pain i had a t14 with all 3 of these AND 60% reduced flask effect, 78% increase damage as fire. first few mobs i was like with these Bubonic Trail it seemed doable too but...... intervention came and died.

Tip Bubonic Trail is very good with no life/mana regeneration, i use them all the time just desecrate and blow up corpse start of map and just keep running dont have to look back and summon phantasm res of map. But you'll have to give you 16% of spell dodge.

Syndicate suxs! fought syndicate a few times in red maps and its about 40%-60% 50% of me just killing them (only time i spam skelly not on boss) 50% death but luckily they are getting nerfed

just an update from this side hows everyone else doing and any tips? also what do you find is better golem wise? defensive and offensive?


oh i sacrificed my flame dash for that arctic amour gem so i just use speed from movement flask and phasing but you could prob when that when you click on my name and see my character

This is actually the dumbest/best build I have ever played. I just actually imported my character into PoB to check out my calcs and the numbers are crazy. 10 skeletons are 1.5mm shaper dps, phantasms another 0.5mm. And those numbers are with my garbage jewels and wearing MF gear and 20/0 gems! And ignoring Vaal SS!

Even on t15 maps I just flask and phaserun for 130%MS and run around the map without stopping to cast any skills (bubonic trail/soulwrest is insane).

This is especially nuts when you consider that the build is insanely cheap to gear (Purity plus CoD ascendancy is free 40% all res!) and can be ramped up really easily as a league starter. I played SRS until my 2nd lab and then switched to skeletons. 4-link skeletons in a +2 minion helmet carried me to like t9 or t10 or something dumb like that.

Will see if I can do uber elder this weekend. Honestly if I upgraded some of my jewels and got 21/20 gems I think the DPS numbers will get truly frightening.

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This is especially nuts when you consider that the build is insanely cheap to gear

I'm glad you think so! I don't think it's as nutty as, for example, HoA last league, since our minions can actually die. It just has very achievable goals that are not dependent on GGG's torturous 6 linking system. The main grind is getting 4B, 2G on the soulwrest.

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and wearing MF gear

Did you get noticably better drops?

I think I noticed a big difference this league, vs past leagues in MF. After they nerfed windripper and sadimas touch, I think they changed the drop rates too.

For example, I ran this build doing red maps at the end of delve (with no MF gear) and found nothing. Now, in SSF with crappy gear, but some good IIR, I'm finding exalts, 6 links, top tier flasks and jewels, rare uniques ... all just running white maps!

I put a theoretical MF version in the PoB links and with 50% IIQ and 200% IIR, the damage and survivability is still acceptable: you'd just need to aim for a bisco's and maybe some good ventor's.

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grimlock9999 wrote:

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This is especially nuts when you consider that the build is insanely cheap to gear

I'm glad you think so! I don't think it's as nutty as, for example, HoA last league, since our minions can actually die. It just has very achievable goals that are not dependent on GGG's torturous 6 linking system. The main grind is getting 4B, 2G on the soulwrest.

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and wearing MF gear

Did you get noticably better drops?

I think I noticed a big difference this league, vs past leagues in MF. After they nerfed windripper and sadimas touch, I think they changed the drop rates too.

For example, I ran this build doing red maps at the end of delve (with no MF gear) and found nothing. Now, in SSF with crappy gear, but some good IIR, I'm finding exalts, 6 links, top tier flasks and jewels, rare uniques ... all just running white maps!

I put a theoretical MF version in the PoB links and with 50% IIQ and 200% IIR, the damage and survivability is still acceptable: you'd just need to aim for a bisco's and maybe some good ventor's.

Yeah, I'm just wearing a bisco's collar and slot an IIR gem and notice a difference for sure. I am debating getting 2 Ventors since my rings are not all that great anyway but I'm wondering whether that makes sense. Honestly I think that taking the time to optimise my loot filter might just make my gains way better haha.

If you decide to reroll in tradeleague send me a message and I'll hook you up with some stuff if you need it.

I'm currently trying to get down to 270 for the league challenge but its a slow process even with spending a lot on it. chisel, alch, vaal, fragment, gilded scarab, t15 map, sextant is over 30c. If you only get one sulphite node that might only be a few thousand sulphite - or if you get 3 nodes you might get over 10k. Either way that is a lot of chaos to spend when you consider that at depth 200 you need to spend 1000 per node and the drops aren't even that good...

edit: just took a look at your MF PoB. i'm not sure div distillate is actually much use for us since the flask wears off when you hit 100% hp/mana (which we should be at almost all the time).

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edit: just took a look at your MF PoB. i'm not sure div distillate is actually much use for us since the flask wears off when you hit 100% hp/mana (which we should be at almost all the time).

Yeah, it's not meant to be a proper build, I was just playing around with it and the gluttony belt (damage on movement skill = more uptime for flask as long as you have 0 ES!)

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If you decide to reroll in tradeleague send me a message and I'll hook you up with some stuff if you need it.

Thanks a lot! It's taking a long time playing SSF and still experimenting - because I can't just buy what I want to change! I'm also testing the new atlas to see if it's better completing all tiers of map before going to the next tier (It's not: i'm still on white maps, cos I can't find or buy the missing maps!)

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grimlock9999 wrote:

Thanks a lot! It's taking a long time playing SSF and still experimenting - because I can't just buy what I want to change! I'm also testing the new atlas to see if it's better completing all tiers of map before going to the next tier (It's not: i'm still on white maps, cos I can't find or buy the missing maps!)

Haha yeah I can imagine progressing through atlas is very difficult on SSF. I have played HCSSF a couple of times but never actually made it to maps there :). Must be hard just to sustain Alchs! Send me a message on here if you roll on betrayal softcore. Would be happy to give you currency to get some leveling items and give you a base of maps to start from.

edit: just sold some stuff to buy two ventors. not much iiq but 30 iir on each of them, all resists still over 100

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Must be hard just to sustain Alchs!

That's the thing with IIR, there are so many uniques that just vendoring them has me swimmming in alchs!

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Would be happy to give you currency to get some leveling items

Thanks again! I spent today fooling around with chaos minions, and am a bit excited to try this. https://pastebin.com/CKzVhGNh

It may be average for bossing, but looks very pleasant and safe for mapping. Between SRS and frost wall blocking projectiles, phantasms knocking enemies back and enfeeble, temp chains, maim, chill, hinder, withered, I'd be surprised if anything can even touch you. As I write, I realise it may be similar to triniparty's super slow mo builds, which I've been a fan of for a while.

I'll hit you up to see if you have a tab rasa and a 20% SRS gem, should be able to level this one quick to see if it's just meme, or if it has legs.