[3.5] Occult ArcPoet - All Content | Millions+ DPS | ÜElder | Delve 1k+ | Videos

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kenmai9 wrote:
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Cyrix1337 wrote:
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Baldry wrote:


you tanked the wolf spell and the bleed?


I tanked the WolfBoss in two Videos in the OP - Both times in MF Gear and once even as twinned Bosses.


MF Twinned:

https://youtu.be/L5Jn6Dh9n_I?t=233

MF (as a pre-boss to shaper):

https://youtu.be/jjOgmpkPJrk?t=121


Please read the OP. ;)


So I want to understand what makes you able to facetank those bosses and I've been thinking about it over the past couple of days. I sometimes run into bosses where their damage outclasses my heal (such as Shaped Orchard green beam boss girl).

POB: https://pastebin.com/1FXxJY9R

2 notes:
-I'm not using aspect of the spider.
-I'm not using Indigon

So this leads me to think there's two possibilities:

1. You have higher energy shield, which makes you leech more (?), and thus are able to survive more since you have more ES to survive until you kill the boss
2. You do way more damage and thus you kill the enemy faster than me, making you able to facetank and take less damage

#1 is debunked in your video since you have like 5.5k ES or something. So I'm assuming its #2.

I do have level 19 and not all 20% quality gems, so maybe getting level 21/20 will push me to be able to facetank/bosskill faster.

Is this analysis correct? Or am I missing something else.

Thanks!

Edit: Another question I wanted to ask is, how do you calculate your total shaper DPS? Is it arc + ball lightning dps? I'm not sure how to figure in the ball lightning DPS.

I don't use Indigon or the Spider stuff and the Lair boss dies really quickly. Don't try to dodge anything, just blast BL and Arc at him. He should go down before he enters that wolf phase. I just ran it and he just melts:

https://youtu.be/eHBAmFKsIFQ?t=2m50s


Edit: The build is so strong that even with slight tweaks to the tree you're able to use VD and get the same results:

https://youtu.be/OamP09HafsI?t=2m40s
Last edited by YT_HB#0097 on Sep 28, 2018, 6:51:40 PM
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Cyrix1337 wrote:
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kenmai9 wrote:

Edit: Another question I wanted to ask is, how do you calculate your total shaper DPS? Is it arc + ball lightning dps? I'm not sure how to figure in the ball lightning DPS.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Rz9F8-PfsijZ_kNUNWURiRQabMCRbuaVGaLTie_oLDw/edit#gid=975172529


Cool, thanks I'll use this!

@YT_HB, yeah I know this build is awesome and super strong. I was just trying to figure out why I can't facetank sometimes when I see videos of you guys doing so. Lower tier stuff like T11 is totally fine. Maybe I just did a rippy T15 and that's why I wasn't able to. Or I need to get good. ;)

Anyways, I took down Red Elder pretty easily for the first (ever) time yesterday. So woo! Working up to Shaper now.

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kenmai9 wrote:
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Cyrix1337 wrote:
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kenmai9 wrote:

Edit: Another question I wanted to ask is, how do you calculate your total shaper DPS? Is it arc + ball lightning dps? I'm not sure how to figure in the ball lightning DPS.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Rz9F8-PfsijZ_kNUNWURiRQabMCRbuaVGaLTie_oLDw/edit#gid=975172529


Cool, thanks I'll use this!

@YT_HB, yeah I know this build is awesome and super strong. I was just trying to figure out why I can't facetank sometimes when I see videos of you guys doing so. Lower tier stuff like T11 is totally fine. Maybe I just did a rippy T15 and that's why I wasn't able to. Or I need to get good. ;)

Anyways, I took down Red Elder pretty easily for the first (ever) time yesterday. So woo! Working up to Shaper now.

Oh, OK. I thought you were specifically talking about Lair. I think I must have gotten your post confused with another. Sry bout that.

For higher tier maps, it depends on the map mods and what attacks the bosses use. This build can take some strong hits but it's not able to just stand there and tank everything. Take Minotaur for example. If you have enough ES on your gear and the Watcher's Eye with ES gained on hit, you're able to tank him without mods. But when you alc/vaal the map, it all depends on the mods.

Some bosses need to go through all of their phases while some you're able to melt before they leave their first phase (ex. Lair). It just depends on the specific situation you're in and adjusting to it. Not much help, I know. GL. And gz on the red elder. ;)
Last edited by YT_HB#0097 on Sep 28, 2018, 7:13:26 PM
Loving the build so far! Getting ready to take on shaper and uber can anyone give me advice on anything I should change and upgrade? I think I need to get more single target dps. Any help is much appreciated!



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Cyrix1337 wrote:
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dguay wrote:
Aspect of the Spider is only for the extra tankiness from the leech on Fenumus Spinnerets (with +10% inc damage and slow of course) or am I missing something else?


Its 20% damage - and its a more multiplier instead of an increase. But yes, the tankyness is what we are after.

Please read the OP.


How is it a more multiplier? I try to understand but can't get it...
Thanks Cyrix for the build, is my first time playing a poet build and i can say your guide help me alot. Dont mind if you can help me out with my 6L frenzy? I got an indigon but cant fully utilise it's potential.
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dguay wrote:

How is it a more multiplier? I try to understand but can't get it...


((BaseDamage + (# to #)) + #inc spell + #inc elem + #inc ligh) * (Pain Attunment + Wrath + Frenzy + Arcane Surge) = ToolTipDamage

ToolTipDamage gets amplified as a whole (!) by modifiers that affect the enemy. Penetration, Malediction, Curses, Shock and the Spider Aura.

Since all those increases happen on the Enemies side of the equation and after you did all other DamageIncreses inherent to your Character they are effectivly More Multiplier.
Oh wow I didn't know that! Thanks alot Cyrix !
Just curious, is aspect of the spider absolutely needed?
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MrSneakyFox wrote:
Just curious, is aspect of the spider absolutely needed?

Short answer is no. Uber Elder was killed without it. Same goes for Indigon for that matter.

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