Supporting GGG and PoE, but not necessarily Bestiary Leaguespansion

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DaFinishGames wrote:

Remember that it's a game, not life and i expect that people of age 16+ (as you should be since PoE it's rated 16+) understand that this is a game and you shouldn't try to leap slam over people or animals.

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Anonymous1749704 wrote:

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The_Scourge wrote:

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Anonymous1749704 wrote:

@Scourge, when act 5 was introduced, did you go on a rant about the fact that we're given the ability to kill unarmed civilians that are running away from us, clearly scared?

No, others did that. I pointed out that they were still in some way complicit to the atrocities. What we do in act 5 is incredibly violent but you can't equate the 'unarmed civilians' of an openly cruel, oppressive regime with genuinely innocent animals that have been placed in captivity for the express purpose of being sacrificed. Or maybe you can. I can't.

So... All germans were on some level responsible for things that Hitler and co. did? Rhetorical question, no need to answer.

To me it's not about the characterization of the exiles. I don't consider there being a secondary moral code between my clicks and the events that take place in the game. I suppose your immersion works differently; I won't have an issue with killing, trapping or sacrificing anything that attacks me. The only mob I probably wouldn't want to sacrifice is an albino rhoa.

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elwindakos wrote:

Just look at it this way.Whatever is corrupted is already dead.

We had no drawbacks on killing tolman either.We now study them before we kill those beasts.Are scientists unethical bastards trying their way with mouse and apes to try and experiment in the process?Are dead body's used for surgical training unethical and cult-like?

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The_Scourge wrote:

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elwindakos wrote:

Just look at it this way.Whatever is corrupted is already dead.

We had no drawbacks on killing tolman either.We now study them before we kill those beasts.Are scientists unethical bastards trying their way with mouse and apes to try and experiment in the process?Are dead body's used for surgical training unethical and cult-like?

Actually, the death of Tolman is the turning point of my sword's personality. It's always struck me as an overlooked event in terms of impact. It's the Exile's first encounter with Piety's cruelty and proclivity for torture up close, and the Exile must surely not enjoy relaying the news to Tolman's beloved and his friends. I believe the Exile is human enough to not relish that.

And no, scientists and the like are doing it (for the most part, I'd like to believe) for the betterment of humankind. Medicine and the like. Those that do it purely for personal gain (as the Exile will be) are pretty much the walking, talking definition of Evil Scientist.

Getting to the meat of your point: treating the beasts like they're already dead. That's an interesting approach that I think would work if there'd been precedent for it. But until now, it's been more about possession than necromancy: those little parasites that fall off the apes, for example. Now we don't know too much about the particular beasts we'll be capturing and sacrificing, but I can't imagine a 'dead' sacrifice is worth much to any sort of power versus a live one. And even if they are dead, then you're introducing an element of pointlessness to capturing, studying and killing them in the first place. Dead is dead. If it's dead and it's not acting dead, make it more dead as soon as possible. This has ever been the Exile's approach.

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The_Scourge wrote:

Eh, we're inching towards the semantics of dead vs alive here. Until I see evidence to the contrary, we're fighting and killing live things unless explicitly stated otherwise (skeletons, zombies, etc).