150 points map tab bollocks BONUS: Fragment tab is 75 points, totaling at 22,5$!

I swear OP would complain about anything and everything that doens't matter if given the time.

The fragment tab is overpriced, ironically I have 71 points left and it cost 75. I've spent over 2 grand supporting this game and I'm 4 points off from being able to buy it....LUL


That being said, it fits in similar nature to me as essence and div card tabs, they arent necessary and so as long as GGG doesn't add this "smart deposit loot" that some idiotic people want (because they cant think of any negatives to easier storage, especially behind a paywall of all the special tabs) then stuff like this is fine.

Buy it if you want, don't if you don't care.

Its optional.

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Miská wrote:

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gibbousmoon wrote:

It is a direct response to Miská, something I completely forgot.

Miská neither responded nor made another appearance in that thread, despite appearing later in this one to call my statements "disgusting."

I chose not to respond on that because our vieuws are to different to work out. I just don't believe that if they put in a tab that hold certain items it then becomes mandatory, even though we were all doing just fine before they introduced it. I also don't believe that free to play people should have the exact same game setup as paying players.

If any tabs or more tabs for that matter were necesarry to play this game I would agree with a change of word. But they aren't. All you lose by being free to play in PoE is time. The amount of items you can store for free across multiple accounts/chars is practically limitless. Sure it is gonna be more annoying or time consuming, but this is something that is accepted in the free to play gaming community.

This

The new tab? Uselless. Those fragments and all they are so rare that making a tab with 5k for each is a joke. I never saw some even once and i need tab for it? Totally optional and honestly usless.

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Turtledove wrote:

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gibbousmoon wrote:

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Perq wrote:

Why not make them stack, then? To annoy people into buying fragment tab?

Well, don't know about you, but you won't see me buying anything from GGG for some time now. Assuming I'll buy anything ever again.

Something I have never, ever accused GGG of being before today is cynical.

But after seeing the new fragment tab, coupled with the fact that they did not implement any stacking for these fragments outside that tab, I sure as hell am accusing them of that from this day forward.

We have to expect this. I'll guess it's likely that they made the fragments not stack-able in the first place to consume tab space. In the interview Chris said it took a large effort to make the fragments stack-able. They basically had to re-implement all of the interactions with the fragments. Keeping the old style fragments and the new style fragments both in the game, I'll guess, was a little bit more work than replacing the old style with the new style. It's a reasonable marketing ploy, I guess. (He said with a helpless shrug.)

I haven't bought it yet but I will because I'm not really into mtx armour for my characters and I have to spend my points someplace. A minor QoL feature is the best place to spend it.

So newly dropped fragments are indeed stackable? I would retract my statement in that case.

Pretty sure they are not, however.

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gibbousmoon wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

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gibbousmoon wrote:

Something I have never, ever accused GGG of being before today is cynical.

But after seeing the new fragment tab, coupled with the fact that they did not implement any stacking for these fragments outside that tab, I sure as hell am accusing them of that from this day forward.

We have to expect this. I'll guess it's likely that they made the fragments not stack-able in the first place to consume tab space. In the interview Chris said it took a large effort to make the fragments stack-able. They basically had to re-implement all of the interactions with the fragments. Keeping the old style fragments and the new style fragments both in the game, I'll guess, was a little bit more work than replacing the old style with the new style. It's a reasonable marketing ploy, I guess. (He said with a helpless shrug.)

I haven't bought it yet but I will because I'm not really into mtx armour for my characters and I have to spend my points someplace. A minor QoL feature is the best place to spend it.

So newly dropped fragments are indeed stackable? I would retract my statement in that case.

Pretty sure they are not, however.

Internally, from a code perspective, the new fragments are implemented as stack-able currency orbs. Interface wise, they are only allowed to stack in the fragment tab though. This is why I have to assume that it was a little more work to implement it this way instead of replacing all the old fragments with new fragments. Without the implementation being done this way it would probably make the fragment tab almost useless.

I decided to buy it before it went on sale. It saved a small amount of space in my stash on standard but zero space in the league. I just had 290 points to spend on something so I used 75 of those points on this fragment tab. My stash is slightly more organized now and if GGG ever implements items going directly into their specialty tab from the inventory on a ctrl-click without having to open the speciality tab then it might really be worth it.

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goetzjam wrote:

I swear OP would complain about anything and everything that doens't matter if given the time.

The fragment tab is overpriced, ironically I have 71 points left and it cost 75. I've spent over 2 grand supporting this game and I'm 4 points off from being able to buy it....LUL


That being said, it fits in similar nature to me as essence and div card tabs, they arent necessary and so as long as GGG doesn't add this "smart deposit loot" that some idiotic people want (because they cant think of any negatives to easier storage, especially behind a paywall of all the special tabs) then stuff like this is fine.

Buy it if you want, don't if you don't care.

Its optional.

So, stash tabs are not pay2win, and give no advantage, but smart deposit loot (that you sticked to, for some add reason, continuously harassing one person) is absolutely terrible?

Now, tell me how much I would complain about everything and can't look at things rationally. You clearly can separate your own bias, lol.

That said: fragments are not to be stackable outside of the fragment tab. They said it is so by design. Everyone knows why - because if they were stackable even to 3, nobody would bother with fragment tab.
And that is as cynical as it gets. Sorry.

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Perq wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

I swear OP would complain about anything and everything that doens't matter if given the time.

The fragment tab is overpriced, ironically I have 71 points left and it cost 75. I've spent over 2 grand supporting this game and I'm 4 points off from being able to buy it....LUL


That being said, it fits in similar nature to me as essence and div card tabs, they arent necessary and so as long as GGG doesn't add this "smart deposit loot" that some idiotic people want (because they cant think of any negatives to easier storage, especially behind a paywall of all the special tabs) then stuff like this is fine.

Buy it if you want, don't if you don't care.

Its optional.

So, stash tabs are not pay2win, and give no advantage, but smart deposit loot (that you sticked to, for some add reason, continuously harassing one person) is absolutely terrible?

Now, tell me how much I would complain about everything and can't look at things rationally. You clearly can separate your own bias, lol.

That said: fragments are not to be stackable outside of the fragment tab. They said it is so by design. Everyone knows why - because if they were stackable even to 3, nobody would bother with fragment tab.
And that is as cynical as it gets. Sorry.

My favorite post of the week. :-)

I dislike the idea to have fragments outside of the existing tabs. Promise to include update for new fragments could mean that another garbinger league is coming and there won't be a currency stash tab update anymore and stuff will be placed into fragment tab instead. Which should be annoying.

I don't see a reson to get fragment tab. I never hoard the fragments, i use them.

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Perq wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

I swear OP would complain about anything and everything that doens't matter if given the time.

The fragment tab is overpriced, ironically I have 71 points left and it cost 75. I've spent over 2 grand supporting this game and I'm 4 points off from being able to buy it....LUL


That being said, it fits in similar nature to me as essence and div card tabs, they arent necessary and so as long as GGG doesn't add this "smart deposit loot" that some idiotic people want (because they cant think of any negatives to easier storage, especially behind a paywall of all the special tabs) then stuff like this is fine.

Buy it if you want, don't if you don't care.

Its optional.

So, stash tabs are not pay2win, and give no advantage, but smart deposit loot (that you sticked to, for some add reason, continuously harassing one person) is absolutely terrible?

Now, tell me how much I would complain about everything and can't look at things rationally. You clearly can separate your own bias, lol.

That said: fragments are not to be stackable outside of the fragment tab. They said it is so by design. Everyone knows why - because if they were stackable even to 3, nobody would bother with fragment tab.
And that is as cynical as it gets. Sorry.

The bolded underlined and in italics word bothers me. Do you mean dishonest? As far as i know cynical doesn't mean dishonest. If you don't mean dishonest can you explain what you mean?

On topic: I feel that GGG dropped the ball when adding trade functionality to premium and not normal tabs. Premium tabs were just cosmetic in the past. You could just change colour and name and that was it. Purely cosmetic. After that they became what i consider the beginning of the end of the true f2p PoE.

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Perq wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

I swear OP would complain about anything and everything that doens't matter if given the time.

The fragment tab is overpriced, ironically I have 71 points left and it cost 75. I've spent over 2 grand supporting this game and I'm 4 points off from being able to buy it....LUL


That being said, it fits in similar nature to me as essence and div card tabs, they arent necessary and so as long as GGG doesn't add this "smart deposit loot" that some idiotic people want (because they cant think of any negatives to easier storage, especially behind a paywall of all the special tabs) then stuff like this is fine.

Buy it if you want, don't if you don't care.

Its optional.

So, stash tabs are not pay2win, and give no advantage, but smart deposit loot (that you sticked to, for some add reason, continuously harassing one person) is absolutely terrible?

Now, tell me how much I would complain about everything and can't look at things rationally. You clearly can separate your own bias, lol.

That said: fragments are not to be stackable outside of the fragment tab. They said it is so by design. Everyone knows why - because if they were stackable even to 3, nobody would bother with fragment tab.
And that is as cynical as it gets. Sorry.

No one is limited on space, you can do everything "functionally" as well on a free account with 20 mule characters and a paid account with 4 additional premium tabs.

The difference here is that I am complaining about giving a functionality to special tabs, that have no free alternative. Functionally they work differently and can save a significant amount of time. People think this time is so little because its only XX per map, but its quite substantial and its far more useful then "raw" stash space.


As for "picking on" someone, when they make statements in support of your "efforts" here. But also want the instant deposit option for premium tabs then they are trying to double dip on the action and benefit from something, just because they paid money.

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On topic: I feel that GGG dropped the ball when adding trade functionality to premium and not normal tabs. Premium tabs were just cosmetic in the past. You could just change colour and name and that was it. Purely cosmetic. After that they became what i consider the beginning of the end of the true f2p PoE.

Maybe they did, but because of acquisition you can still list your items for free with regular tabs. Making things stack is whatever, adding a functionality that only works for people that buy all the fancy tabs is NOT ok.

it's expensive at the start but worth it in a long run.