The dangerously big influence of reddit

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sherkhan wrote:

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pr13st wrote:

Also why would you care, as long as we have this: http://www.gggtracker.com/

That resource is great for getting GGG commentary. Then you realize that the best way to get GGG responses is not emailing support or asking on their own forums, but by participating on Reddit and dealing with it's deeply flawed moderating / botting issues.

I honestly believe that this a bigger issue than some people think. Why on earth do developers abandon their own game forums in favor of easily influenced communicaion media? And why ON EARTH do I have to check reddit for vital game info? Why can't their community manager post this stuff in a special thread on the forums? Or are people assumed to use this gggtracker just like they are assumed to use third party website for trading?

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MECHanokl wrote:

And reagarding the league, you know what they could have done? END IT, and transfer progress to standard. I was waiting since May to be able to finally play with new cool loots that I got in leagacy using my old characters.

LOL. So you're at 27 challenges and have no interest in continuing to play Legacy, but instead want to play Standard now. Well, go play standard then. All of your drops from Legacy are not preventing you from playing Standard. And the rest of us are enjoying Legacy still. I'm happy Legacy is still going.

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cipher_nemo wrote:

LOL. So you're at 27 challenges and have no interest in continuing to play Legacy, but instead want to play Standard now. Well, go play standard then. All of your drops from Legacy are not preventing you from playing Standard. And the rest of us are enjoying Legacy still. I'm happy Legacy is still going.

I wish I could play in standard to the full extent, but you have conveniently ignored the fact that I can't. I can't get my completed atlas in standard, and see no reason to re-grind it. I cannot get expensive items that I bought in legacy (expecting, mind you, the league to end in 3 month like it was suppoused to), and have no desire to re-grind currency for them in standard.
And even if I proceed, I will end up with crappy zana mods, that were gutted in favor of legacy, but were not fixed after the extension.

I have 27 challenges because I did not really care about them, since the reward mtx did not look appealing to me.

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MECHanokl wrote:

I can't get my completed atlas in standard, and see no reason to re-grind it.

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MECHanokl wrote:

I have 27 challenges because I did not really care about them, since the reward mtx did not look appealing to me.

At 27 you most likely don't have a fully completed Atlas anyways. Why don't you use this time to complete it with bonuses? Many challenges you didn't complete that are easy to do along the way of completing the Atlas, but you didn't bother.

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MECHanokl wrote:

I cannot get expensive items that I bought in legacy (expecting, mind you, the league to end in 3 month like it was suppoused to), and have no desire to re-grind currency for them in standard.

Then wait. I guess you don't have any patience? So because you're impatient for Legacy to end, you're happy to say frak you to the rest of us who're still enjoying it. Interesting.

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MECHanokl wrote:

And even if I proceed, I will end up with crappy zana mods, that were gutted in favor of legacy, but were not fixed after the extension.

Yeah, I agree, not having the Zana mods thanks to Legacy sucks.

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cipher_nemo wrote:

Won't quote the entire post to avoid taking too much space. Firstly, I do have a completed altas, 126/126, which was my main goal for the league, but that is irrelevant.

Secondly, oh sure I can wait. The league was suppoused to end in the beginning of June, it's July now, so I am waiting a whole extra month (more if you count that fact that I got bored with league in April). And it looks like I will be waiting even more, since FoO does not seem to be coming out anytime soon (at this rate I predict september as the launch month).

My problem with the decision to extend the league is that people who wanted to continue to play legacy already had numerous legacy events that were going on; but people who got fed up with legacy and didn't care about racing were out of luck in terms of options.

agree with everything in the OP.

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eXecut1on wrote:

This has bothered me for a long time now. I think GGG trusts Reddit way too much when it comes to balance decisions without considering that most of the people there have never reached lvl 90 and their only goal is to kill Shaper and then quit 2 weeks into the league to start crying about how easy the game is.

Reddit is a vocal minority. People who play the game won't go to reddit and start complaining about this and that, they just play the game. On the other hand all the salty people who don't even play anymore cry for weeks and weeks until they reach their goal of messing stuff up and then? They quit again after 2 weeks into the new league and do the same thing over and over again.

Isn't this people on the forums as well?

The majority haven't reached level 90 or killed Shaper and quit two weeks into the league to hang out on the forums; a vocal minority. (as everyone knows most people who play the game don't bother with the forums or reddit)

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eXecut1on wrote:

Then there's some popular streamers who also keep saying how PoE would be too easy but ironically some of them die every day. Nevertheless they reach their goal of making their viewers parrot what they say on Reddit and start drama.

I might not be reading the same threads as you, but the streamer death threads I've read seem to be reasonably balanced between people agreeing with what the streamer says and people saying the streamer doesn't know what they're talking about.

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MECHanokl wrote:

My problem with the decision to extend the league is that people who wanted to continue to play legacy already had numerous legacy events that were going on; but people who got fed up with legacy and didn't care about racing were out of luck in terms of options.

For those tired of both the league and not interested in racing or the two week events... well, you have beta. Plenty to do right now, regardless of Legacy still running. Hence I can't understand why people wanting it to end. I can understand people wanting another league in-between, but just wanting it to end so that they can move Legacy progress into Standard? Sory, but that interest of yours is in the minority. Just ask anyone else. Plenty want another league, want to play beta, or want races/events, but I know of no one besides you who would rather play Standard during this time.

hit the nail on the head. post is perfect, have been thinking of doing a similar write up for the last few days but honestly can't top this.

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sherkhan wrote:

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Then there's some popular streamers who also keep saying how PoE would be too easy but ironically some of them die every day. Nevertheless they reach their goal of making their viewers parrot what they say on Reddit and start drama.

Yeah, that streamer claims HC is bullshit because his shitty builds require excellent skills that still get you killed 1-5% of the time. He had a history of vote brigading/botting, so I'm not sure how much of what you see are people parotting him versus him stroking his own bruised ego.

That being said, people online are increasingly influenced by bots.

The said streamer plays HC but I'm not gonna say any names