YOU MORONS CRYING FOR AUCTION HOUSE DIDNT SEE D3

But even GGG views a full blown AH as bad and that is why PoE will never have one so anyone asking for an AH is wasting their breath. I personally don't see that an AH along the lines of what Blizzard coded in original D3 is the right choice here either. My view of what's the best for PoE is in the middle with asynchronous trade to keep the 3rd party trade search sites but modify so we can access seller's trade stash without needing a seller invite (no more whispering) and pay the B/O price and be on our way. My suggestion keeps the process taking long enough to discourage flippers.
"You've got to grind, grind, grind at that grindstone..."
Necessity may be the mother of invention, but poor QoP in PoE is the father of frustration.

The perfect solution to fix Trade Chat:
www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2247070
GGG have clearly communicated that the only player force they understand is the loss of community and sales. The issues involved with trade are a festering wound that keeps growing the longer they choose to ignore it and listen to their mouthpieces that have only their own interests in mind. The only certain thing is that you can only exploit the good will and dedication of your players for so long before it comes back to bite you in the ass. I sincerely hope that GGG can act as professionals and understand that the environment they are attempting to preserve is toxic to the majority of their players and in the end will cost them a lot more money than the few whales, advertisers they keep pleasing atm bring in.

The bottom line is when these people who have everything available to them at a whim complain that easier trading is dangerous because it would make things too accessible its rather hard to take them seriously. Those who have entirely lost perspective on how item acquisition and progression works in the game should not be the ones directly interacting with GGG and influencing their decisions.
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Ageless_Emperion wrote:
Those who have entirely lost perspective on how item acquisition and progression works in the game should not be the ones directly interacting with GGG and influencing their decisions.


Beautiful, perfectly said!
I love how the reasons they arent implementing it is because "everyone would just trade for what they needed instead of playing for it".

"We want people to feel progression".

Why does poe.trade exist then?

Its pretty much an AH, with the difference i have to interact with 50 people before getting what i want because:

1 to 5, price fixers, 5-49 fk/cant be bothered answering, 1 the poor soul that actually needs to trade even this to have currency.

Its pretty obvious GGG is doing the same mistake many other companies did by catering to people they shouldnt, only difference is, no one cares how many people are online in an ARPG game cause it doesnt affect their 99% solo playing.

If this was a MMO in the sense of needing other people to do stuff game would have died years ago with the logic of :

"Since streamers and a few 24/7 players can trade just fine system must be good".
I dont really play d3 and i didnt know about this but i do play Maplestory and its got an AH (more then one for other stuff or did) and its got player ran shops

AH is fine...

This game already has trading and its mostly already an AH its just a shit and lazy way to do it since it isnt even ran by the games own devs (at least i dont think no idea who owns poetrade)


I dont get how one in the game would hurt it would be the same thing but less time wasted less time waiting around for players to not be afk/in maps etc
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Lynerus wrote:
I dont really play d3 and i didnt know about this but i do play Maplestory and its got an AH (more then one for other stuff or did) and its got player ran shops

AH is fine...

This game already has trading and its mostly already an AH its just a shit and lazy way to do it since it isnt even ran by the games own devs (at least i dont think no idea who owns poetrade)


I dont get how one in the game would hurt it would be the same thing but less time wasted less time waiting around for players to not be afk/in maps etc



It wouldnt hurt, it would actually make alot of players happier, and keep many from quitting.
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majesw wrote:
I'm sorry I missed so much of this topic. The OP is completely wrong. The AH in Diablo 3 was fantastic. There are a few reasons that it “failed”.
The first reason is that there was zero item, build, or end-game diversity in vanilla D3. Everyone wanted the same item mods and legendary items weren’t really part of the game. This lead to people easily maxing out their one character and having zero incentive to re-roll since everyone farmed the same things.
So Blizzard created a system where each player needed a total of around 11 items and were confused as why people “finished” the game so quickly. They blamed this on the Auction House.

Now the Real money side is a different story. I still think this was a success from a player perspective. I enjoyed making money and I used the money I made to buy 1-2 things too. Unfortunately, with no diversity in item drops it was tremendously difficult to find anything to sell and the only real way to make decent money was to large scale flip items.
From Blizzard’s side I think the RMAH was an absolute nightmare. Now, I do think that they made a whole bunch of money from it. But I think dealing with tax laws was too much for them. One of the reasons they went with the RMAH was because they had been pressured for years to cut down on 3rd party sellers. When they found out they couldn’t deal with tax regulations they decided to try something completely different (removing the economy entirely).

Now the real question is can PoE support an Auction House? I personally think that it has the depth to do so. There are so many items to find, so many builds to do, and a lot of different things to farm in the end-game that people won’t “finish” the game instantly like they did in D3. Now I fully realize that most leagues last about a month (some people finish in a week or two). But keep in mind we already have an AH in place… It’s just absolutely terrible. It really wouldn’t speed things up a lot to have a good one.




I agree with you . And finally someone that understands that the itemization is what that makes or breaks a ah . Poe would be so incredible better game if it had a ah simular to d3 , poe has so amazing diversity of builds etc , so a ah in poe would be perfect .


I think POE is a great game, but trading in game is terrible. I think it should be GGG number#1 priority to fix the trading in games. I remember playing DAOC years ago, and you could have a vendor that you could have at your house and you could sell items off your vendor. Not sure if they could do the same way out of your Hide Out and someone have a vendor that other players could buy items off of? Not really a AH but a vendor that our could have to sell items.
Only the casual scrubs didn't like the RMAH , everyone else was getting money lul .
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wilddoug wrote:
I think POE is a great game, but trading in game is terrible. I think it should be GGG number#1 priority to fix the trading in games. I remember playing DAOC years ago, and you could have a vendor that you could have at your house and you could sell items off your vendor. Not sure if they could do the same way out of your Hide Out and someone have a vendor that other players could buy items off of? Not really a AH but a vendor that our could have to sell items.


If that so called vender did not have an awesome search engine tied with it that is fully capable of everything poetrade does, then no thanks. Not to mention some people still have issues zoneing into some peoples crazy ass HO's of lag, LOL.
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