I just hope uninformed, unrelated people wont bug with what i suggest for this build and how you get to use it better.
Right, and this is to prove what exactly?
For example: I link a 20/20 Added Cold Damage Support gem to my Flame Golems so the tooltip does show some DPS for the golems (by default it doesn't show DPS).
Now, guess what happens if I equip this spell damage amulet:
Surprise, surprise...
Or this elemental damage sceptre:
Or this cast speed ring:
Isn't that proof enough that we should invest heavily in cast speed and spell/elemental damage in the tree and on our gear to boost our golem damage since all of these do affect the golem tooltip DPS? LOL
Do u even know what you suggested?
You said damage increase while dead does not apply to our golems.
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tomay wrote:
@MrsDeath_: first you hijack someone else's build, claiming to have it tweaked to perfection while in fact you have done nothing but muddling this thread with so much "false information" that it truly boggles the mind and now you have the nerve accusing me of spreading "false information" when I say "increased damage while dead" does not apply to minions???
I ve proven its wrong that makes u an unreliable source on any content in this game.
I said this before but do not put false information to a thread i do take care.
Trust your mind and strengthen your abilities!
Last edited by MrsDeath_#3960 on May 10, 2017, 9:41:58 AM
For those saying Fire Pen > Empower Level 4
WRONG
The moment you hit with Ball Lightning with EE + Ele Weakness + Flammability,
at all mob difficulty levels (normal mobs, bosses, shaper-level bosses), Empower beats Fire Pen
Don't believe me go put it in pathofbuilder
Empower is better than firepen but firepen is a decent cheaper option
And those that can't afford Harmonies, try 2 eminences, there isnt a dps drop but gain (ofc fill the rest with harmonies still)
For those saying Fire Pen > Empower Level 4
WRONG
The moment you hit with Ball Lightning with EE + Ele Weakness + Flammability,
at all mob difficulty levels (normal mobs, bosses, shaper-level bosses), Empower beats Fire Pen
Don't believe me go put it in pathofbuilder
Empower is better than firepen but firepen is a decent cheaper option
And those that can't afford Harmonies, try 2 eminences, there isnt a dps drop but gain (ofc fill the rest with harmonies still)
Actually fire pen is better. Since this build is a minion build you can not use path of builder. I told this before but do not use that to calculate anything you wanna use in this build.Everything you about this build is at the comments or at 1st comment of this thread.
I tried fire pen vs empower lvl 4 and fire pen is significantly different and way better.Clear speed difference can be seen easily.
Since build is not updated curse on hit is kinda too much to use. There is an alternative option to go.
That is double defensive curse with blasphemy - temp chains - enfeeble. Way better at playstyle and safe to do all content.
I said this before but do not put false information to a thread i do take care.
And who made you the caretaker of this thread? LOL
OP... as i said before i talked to him about thread and he was glad that someone is taking care of his build.
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Do u even know what you suggested?
You said damage increase while dead does not apply to our golems.
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tomay wrote:
@MrsDeath_: first you hijack someone else's build, claiming to have it tweaked to perfection while in fact you have done nothing but muddling this thread with so much "false information" that it truly boggles the mind and now you have the nerve accusing me of spreading "false information" when I say "increased damage while dead" does not apply to minions???
This proves damage while dead increases our golem damage too. So that makes u a fraud and ignorant human being.
I made a mistake while thinking u would be reasonable or at least can admit that you are wrong.
I will no longer answer your questions and will note to everyone you give information that you know nothing.
For those saying Fire Pen > Empower Level 4
WRONG
The moment you hit with Ball Lightning with EE + Ele Weakness + Flammability,
at all mob difficulty levels (normal mobs, bosses, shaper-level bosses), Empower beats Fire Pen
Don't believe me go put it in pathofbuilder
Empower is better than firepen but firepen is a decent cheaper option
And those that can't afford Harmonies, try 2 eminences, there isnt a dps drop but gain (ofc fill the rest with harmonies still)
Actually fire pen is better. Since this build is a minion build you can not use path of builder. I told this before but do not use that to calculate anything you wanna use in this build.Everything you about this build is at the comments or at 1st comment of this thread.
I tried fire pen vs empower lvl 4 and fire pen is significantly different and way better.Clear speed difference can be seen easily.
Since build is not updated curse on hit is kinda too much to use. There is an alternative option to go.
That is double defensive curse with blasphemy - temp chains - enfeeble. Way better at playstyle and safe to do all content.
why can't pathofbuilder be used for minions? basic math doesnt apply to minions?
well besides cursing what else is there to do? run around in circles?
For those saying Fire Pen > Empower Level 4
WRONG
The moment you hit with Ball Lightning with EE + Ele Weakness + Flammability,
at all mob difficulty levels (normal mobs, bosses, shaper-level bosses), Empower beats Fire Pen
Don't believe me go put it in pathofbuilder
Empower is better than firepen but firepen is a decent cheaper option
And those that can't afford Harmonies, try 2 eminences, there isnt a dps drop but gain (ofc fill the rest with harmonies still)
Actually fire pen is better. Since this build is a minion build you can not use path of builder. I told this before but do not use that to calculate anything you wanna use in this build.Everything you about this build is at the comments or at 1st comment of this thread.
I tried fire pen vs empower lvl 4 and fire pen is significantly different and way better.Clear speed difference can be seen easily.
Since build is not updated curse on hit is kinda too much to use. There is an alternative option to go.
That is double defensive curse with blasphemy - temp chains - enfeeble. Way better at playstyle and safe to do all content.
why can't pathofbuilder be used for minions? basic math doesnt apply to minions?
well besides cursing what else is there to do? run around in circles?
Golem damage is complicated. Because golems do use 3 different spells to attack. Every attack has different type like; aoe,spell,projectiles. Every attack gets effected differently by supported skills.
That makes the tooltip dps calculation unpredictable.
Thats why we dont use path of builder.
Actually fire pen is better. Since this build is a minion build you can not use path of builder. I told this before but do not use that to calculate anything you wanna use in this build.Everything you about this build is at the comments or at 1st comment of this thread.
I tried fire pen vs empower lvl 4 and fire pen is significantly different and way better.Clear speed difference can be seen easily.
Since build is not updated curse on hit is kinda too much to use. There is an alternative option to go.
That is double defensive curse with blasphemy - temp chains - enfeeble. Way better at playstyle and safe to do all content.
why can't pathofbuilder be used for minions? basic math doesnt apply to minions?
well besides cursing what else is there to do? run around in circles?
Golem damage is complicated. Because golems do use 3 different spells to attack. Every attack has different type like; aoe,spell,projectiles. Every attack gets effected differently by supported skills.
That makes the tooltip dps calculation unpredictable.
Thats why we dont use path of builder.
Magma Ball - Projectile AoE spell, 100% Fire, targets ground like Magma Orb so it can't pierce/chain/fork, supported by spell/AoE and some projectile supports.
Flame Wave - AoE spell in a ~120° cone, 100% fire, default range is approximately 30 units, affected by AoE radius and damage increases, supported by spell/AoE supports.
Immolate - Spell that releases a barrage of 4 piercing projectiles, 100% Fire, additional projectiles increase coverage, echo repeats the barrage, supported by spell/projectile supports.
Links : Controlled destruction + GMP + Spell Echo + Minion damage + Empower/FirePen affects all 3 skills equally
So I don't see why pathofbuilder is not accurate?
Magma Ball - Projectile AoE spell, 100% Fire, targets ground like Magma Orb so it can't pierce/chain/fork, supported by spell/AoE and some projectile supports.
Flame Wave - AoE spell in a ~120° cone, 100% fire, default range is approximately 30 units, affected by AoE radius and damage increases, supported by spell/AoE supports.
Immolate - Spell that releases a barrage of 4 piercing projectiles, 100% Fire, additional projectiles increase coverage, echo repeats the barrage, supported by spell/projectile supports.
Links : Controlled destruction + GMP + Spell Echo + Minion damage + Empower/FirePen affects all 3 skills equally
So I don't see why pathofbuilder is not accurate?
Flame wave is aoe so it does not get effected by gmp's damage reduction so it deals different damage.
Other 2 are getting effected by gmp and getting damage penalty.
Trust your mind and strengthen your abilities!
Last edited by MrsDeath_#3960 on May 10, 2017, 10:34:46 AM
