Do you know why Exalted price has fallen so hard on BSC?

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rhah wrote:

People price in chaos because if you price in exalts then your item will be listed farther down the list. Look at the Dying Sun listings for example: 300 chaos Flask listed ABOVE 5ex Flask, even though 300 chaos is 6.5ex.

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Crusader_of_Sorrow wrote:

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rhah wrote:

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Crusader_of_Sorrow wrote:

It is just combined, "let's all price in chaos and make ex prices drop".

People price in chaos because if you price in exalts then your item will be listed farther down the list. Look at the Dying Sun listings for example: 300 chaos Flask listed ABOVE 5ex Flask, even though 300 chaos is 6.5ex.

It's not that simple, i had 3 listed at 6 ex, all sold in less than 1 day. I still can't see other reason why people are pricing in that many chaos but manipulating ex prices. But well, opinions diverge, good point yours, i noticed that listing too, just didn't think it makes much difference.

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Somebody just told you how listing an item for 6.5 ex gets it listed above the 6 ex items just by listing it for 300 chaos instead of 6.5 ex and you still can't see any reason for doing so?
Somebody just told you how you could have sold your items for 6.5 ex instead of 6 ex and you still can't see any reason for doing so?

You are a special person.

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Crusader_of_Sorrow wrote:

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Somebody just told you how listing an item for 6.5 ex gets it listed above the 6 ex items just by listing it for 300 chaos instead of 6.5 ex and you still can't see any reason for doing so?
Somebody just told you how you could have sold your items for 6.5 ex instead of 6 ex and you still can't see any reason for doing so?

You are a special person.

Dude, you're in the wrong thread. You are like those redditors that talk shit you don't even know about.
What he said is listing for chaos your item is listed first. But i just told that even listing in ex, MY ITEMS, which are shown after the ones listed in chaos, sell first. You must have some trouble understanding things and call others out without knowing shit.

My dying sun flasks were listed at 6 ex while others are listed at 220 chaos. My flasks are already sold, the ones for 220c aren't(btw, 6 ex is more than 220c, even in those shitty conversions). Can you understand now? Before calling others retards in other words so you don't get called out?

I love humanity those days(/s?), they want to go into a discussion, but can't stop calling others retards and don't even try to argue even tho they are the ones not understanding shit cuz can't argue in a civilized manner. Read, try to understand, then come give your opinion, instead of coming here trying to offend others.[Removed by Support]

AND, no dying sun is selling above 6 ex, at least up to this moment. I had 4 listed for 6-7 ex. [Removed by Support]

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I_NO wrote:

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Crusader_of_Sorrow wrote:

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Somebody just told you how listing an item for 6.5 ex gets it listed above the 6 ex items just by listing it for 300 chaos instead of 6.5 ex and you still can't see any reason for doing so?
Somebody just told you how you could have sold your items for 6.5 ex instead of 6 ex and you still can't see any reason for doing so?

You are a special person.

Dude, you're in the wrong thread. You are like those redditors that talk shit you don't even know about.
What he said is listing for chaos your item is listed first. But i just told that even listing in ex, MY ITEMS, which are shown after the ones listed in chaos, sell first. You must have some trouble understanding things and call others out without knowing shit.

My dying sun flasks were listed at 6 ex while others are listed at 220 chaos. My flasks are already sold, the ones for 220c aren't(btw, 6 ex is more than 220c, even in those shitty conversions). Can you understand now? Before calling others retards in other words so you don't get called out?

I love humanity those days(/s?), they want to go into a discussion, but can't stop calling others retards and don't even try to argue even tho they are the ones not understanding shit cuz can't argue in a civilized manner. Read, try to understand, then come give your opinion, instead of coming here trying to offend others.[Removed by Support]

What are you even saying nobody here literally understands you.

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Crusader_of_Sorrow wrote:

Not new, but every player. Like, i dropped around 20 ex this league. If i sold all of them for 45c i would be a fucking clown.

What i mean is, those selling ex cheap, are new players, that just reached merciless and need chaos because every shit is priced in chaos. And the chaos to ex is cheap BECAUSE the stuff which should be priced in ex(the expensive ones) are priced in chaos too. Making their luck turn into shit, cuz instead of exchanging their precious ex they got while leveling for 65c, they will get 45c and... from now on you can guess the story.

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Crusader_of_Sorrow wrote:

Anyway, i don't understand why so many people are defending the ex value being so low now. Lol... as i said, since i started playing(1 year ago), it was never that low. And it sucks, cuz you already take a long time to build a char, why the fuck those flippers are trying to make it even harder?

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

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Crusader_of_Sorrow wrote:

Not new, but every player. Like, i dropped around 20 ex this league. If i sold all of them for 45c i would be a fucking clown.

What i mean is, those selling ex cheap, are new players, that just reached merciless and need chaos because every shit is priced in chaos. And the chaos to ex is cheap BECAUSE the stuff which should be priced in ex(the expensive ones) are priced in chaos too. Making their luck turn into shit, cuz instead of exchanging their precious ex they got while leveling for 65c, they will get 45c and... from now on you can guess the story.

yeah you are arguing that new players and small time players have exalts and hence are getting ripped off. They actually have way more access to chaos than exalts, so theres little sense in what youre saying. The situation you describe is real, but is vastly outweighed by the absolute reserve situation of players getting to merciless with a bunch of chaos and the potential to grind chaos recipe. Theyre not getting ripped off, they were getting ripped off when they had to spend the chaos orbs they were able to farm for exalts at extortionate, manipulated values of 60+ chaos a piece in order to buy gear from people who refused to take anything but pure exalts for their items.

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Crusader_of_Sorrow wrote:

Anyway, i don't understand why so many people are defending the ex value being so low now. Lol... as i said, since i started playing(1 year ago), it was never that low. And it sucks, cuz you already take a long time to build a char, why the fuck those flippers are trying to make it even harder?

because what you are saying doesnt make sense, lower exalt prices are better for new players, better for crafters, better for people who want to stack exalts, theres very few people who benefit from exalts being stupidly expensive outside of currency flippers and high end, 15 hour a day bigboy money mappers who reroll a lot of maps and use a lot of zana mods.

Its not making things harder, its making chaos recipe better which any average joe can do. Chaos orbs have a much higher drop rate and hence their distribution is far more even among the player base, you can rely on finding chaos even if you dont play crazy amounts of hours. Exalts are random as fk, you have to be a serious no lifer playing some clearspeed maxing build to start seeing exalt drop rng even coming close to averaging out for you.

Youve played 1 year and all youve known in that time is exalts being horrendously price manipulated to the disadvantage of new players, average joe players and crafters. I think you are just seeing something change that you are not used to and you think that must mean something is wrong. Ive been playing this game for 4 years now and what I am seeing is currency ratios coming back down towards what I consider normal, reasonable rates that benefit the majority of players. Imo theyre still too expensive and that is still hurting the game from many angles. Thats why I disagree with your take on it, I cant speak for why others here have the opinions they do.




What people are saying about pricing in chaos putting items before exalt priced items is true too, I was selling a 6L carcass jack and I had the cheapest one for sale, but because I was pricing in exalts there were like 10+ items priced in chaos coming up before mine in the search, so I relisted it in chaos for the same actual price and it jumped to first in line.

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Crusader_of_Sorrow wrote:

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Somebody just told you how listing an item for 6.5 ex gets it listed above the 6 ex items just by listing it for 300 chaos instead of 6.5 ex and you still can't see any reason for doing so?
Somebody just told you how you could have sold your items for 6.5 ex instead of 6 ex and you still can't see any reason for doing so?

You are a special person.

Dude, you're in the wrong thread. You are like those redditors that talk shit you don't even know about.
What he said is listing for chaos your item is listed first. But i just told that even listing in ex, MY ITEMS, which are shown after the ones listed in chaos, sell first. You must have some trouble understanding things and call others out without knowing shit.

My dying sun flasks were listed at 6 ex while others are listed at 220 chaos. My flasks are already sold, the ones for 220c aren't(btw, 6 ex is more than 220c, even in those shitty conversions). Can you understand now? Before calling others retards in other words so you don't get called out?

I love humanity those days(/s?), they want to go into a discussion, but can't stop calling others retards and don't even try to argue even tho they are the ones not understanding shit cuz can't argue in a civilized manner. Read, try to understand, then come give your opinion, instead of coming here trying to offend others.[Removed by Support]

AND, no dying sun is selling above 6 ex, at least up to this moment. I had 4 listed for 6-7 ex. [Removed by Support]

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Docbp87 wrote:

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Crusader_of_Sorrow wrote:

I don't understand people defending that bullshit market manipulation, I'M benefiting from it and i think it is wrong, why the fuck you think it is right? Just because you're benefiting? I'm just alerting why people are pricing shit in chaos.

People are pricing things in chaos because exalts are not stable. Thats it. They aren't pricing things in chaos because that somehow fucks new players.

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Wyand1337 wrote:

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Crusader_of_Sorrow wrote:

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Somebody just told you how listing an item for 6.5 ex gets it listed above the 6 ex items just by listing it for 300 chaos instead of 6.5 ex and you still can't see any reason for doing so?
Somebody just told you how you could have sold your items for 6.5 ex instead of 6 ex and you still can't see any reason for doing so?

You are a special person.

Dude, you're in the wrong thread. You are like those redditors that talk shit you don't even know about.
What he said is listing for chaos your item is listed first. But i just told that even listing in ex, MY ITEMS, which are shown after the ones listed in chaos, sell first. You must have some trouble understanding things and call others out without knowing shit.

My dying sun flasks were listed at 6 ex while others are listed at 220 chaos. My flasks are already sold, the ones for 220c aren't(btw, 6 ex is more than 220c, even in those shitty conversions). Can you understand now? Before calling others retards in other words so you don't get called out?

I love humanity those days(/s?), they want to go into a discussion, but can't stop calling others retards and don't even try to argue even tho they are the ones not understanding shit cuz can't argue in a civilized manner. Read, try to understand, then come give your opinion, instead of coming here trying to offend others.[Removed by Support]

AND, no dying sun is selling above 6 ex, at least up to this moment. I had 4 listed for 6-7 ex. [Removed by Support]

I am in the right thread. [Removed by Support]

I myself sold multiple dying sun flasks between 250 and 300 chaos each over the last couple of days. You cannot tell me that they do not sell for 220.

This entire thread of yours is a pile of crap. You are still on this fixed idea that items being priced in chaos is the reason for exalt prices dropping. Even though I told you multiple times that the exalt drop happened BEFORE people started favouring chaos over exalts when selling items in the 1-10 ex range. You are not the great observer you think you are.