[2.6] CRIT HoWA BF/ST Raider [13k ES, 60k BF/265k GMP ST DPS, Stun-immune] [4 sec Chayula kill]

I started with BF version, and i feel like i have not enough dps(( If anyone can help me - help me pls!:DDD
here's my gear


i have 6.379 on inc area and 9.849 on conc eff avg damage on tooltip of BF under wrath/discipline and ice golem, and i feel a lack of dps, but dunno what am i doing wrong(
If anyone can tell me wut to change to proceed to those juicy 25k+ tooltip dps - PLS HALP) ty verymuch anyway ^_^
after doing some more testing i came up with this tree being optimal
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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBAAAGAQkDHgW1DPINjQ5ID6sPxBEvEVARlhXXFfYV_Ra_FyYZihnXGo0dTx2DH0Ei6iPTJIsk_SoLKjgrCiy_LR8wWzB8Nbk31Dt8PL4-z0HQRwZMs04qUUdWY1b6WyZbr13yX2pfcGJaYnlsCG0ZbydvV3BSeBl4-XqEft1_K3_Gf_uDbYTFhq6J04w2jYGNuY2_j_qTJ5Uglwaaapu1oS-io6XLpyusl60zr-u0xbjKuNm95r6KwaDBxcHzwuzDOsSizerQH9Ct0NDY1dvn3UjfmOdU5-ro1usU7BjtP-4O7-vxivkz_MX9bv_e


im now sitting at 170k buffed dps with 9.5 K ES with the extra leech while also being immune to TC. also you definetly dont need ms on boots at all since you are whirling around all the time.

after taking a closer look at the suggested tree i saw it has 1 less jewel slot and the other slots are filled with copies of my perfect jewel which are really rare so thats a little bit of cheating from your side. the boots you are suggesting are also probably worth half a skyforth ... i have pretty good boots myself
and i still choose to go with kaoms because after testing both versions i simply find it better
another point: if i manage to get enough accuracy and replace the shapers with rare ES gloves they also will provide more bonus ES compared to US version since i have more % ES in total
whoops wrong version in the post before this ist the final
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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBAAAGAQkDHgW1DPINjQ5ID6sPxBEvEVARlhXXFfYV_Ra_FyYZihnXGo0dTx2DH0Ei6iPTJIsknST9KgsqOCsKLL8tHzBbNbk31Dt8PL4-z0HQRwZMs04qUUdSKVXgVmNYWlsmW69d8l9qX3BiWmJ5bAhtGW8nb1dwUngZeoR_xn_7g22ExYauidOMNo2Bjb-P-pKAkyeTkJUglwaaF5pqm7WhL6KjpcunK6yXrTOv67TFuMq42b3mvorBoMHFwfPC7MM6xKLN6tAf0K3Q0NN-2NXb591I35jnVOd05-ro1usU7BjtP-4O73rv6_GK-TP8xf_e
Just a quick question. My gear is pretty awful, around 8.6k ES.

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I just chanced a Skyforth, would building around them significantly alter the build and would it be worthwhile, or no?
Last edited by rubikcubed#3203 on Apr 6, 2017, 4:47:17 PM
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rubikcubed wrote:
Just a quick question. My gear is pretty awful, around 8.6k ES.

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I just chanced a Skyforth, would building around them significantly alter the build and would it be worthwhile, or no?


From my own experimenting with the tree / build, Skyforth isn't that big of an upgrade for the build - the points you save from getting US end up needing to go towards additional ES% nodes, it's tough to get the additional resists necessary in other slots, and ultimately it doesn't add all that much after it's all said and done considering the investment. It is slightly better especially for mapping when BV+PCoC won't generate power charges consistently, but if you're strapped on budget you'll see much bigger gains by selling the Skyforth and buying better gear elsewhere.
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energy_stress_tensor wrote:
after doing some more testing i came up with this tree being optimal
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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBAAAGAQkDHgW1DPINjQ5ID6sPxBEvEVARlhXXFfYV_Ra_FyYZihnXGo0dTx2DH0Ei6iPTJIsk_SoLKjgrCiy_LR8wWzB8Nbk31Dt8PL4-z0HQRwZMs04qUUdWY1b6WyZbr13yX2pfcGJaYnlsCG0ZbydvV3BSeBl4-XqEft1_K3_Gf_uDbYTFhq6J04w2jYGNuY2_j_qTJ5Uglwaaapu1oS-io6XLpyusl60zr-u0xbjKuNm95r6KwaDBxcHzwuzDOsSizerQH9Ct0NDY1dvn3UjfmOdU5-ro1usU7BjtP-4O7-vxivkz_MX9bv_e


im now sitting at 170k buffed dps with 9.5 K ES with the extra leech while also being immune to TC. also you definetly dont need ms on boots at all since you are whirling around all the time.

after taking a closer look at the suggested tree i saw it has 1 less jewel slot and the other slots are filled with copies of my perfect jewel which are really rare so thats a little bit of cheating from your side. the boots you are suggesting are also probably worth half a skyforth ... i have pretty good boots myself
and i still choose to go with kaoms because after testing both versions i simply find it better


Hey! I've stumbled upon your suggestion/argument versus OP's build.

While I can give you 10 reasons why in my opinion, Kaoms Roots are garbage (compared to a good pair of ES boots) and generally, why OP's build works far better in many aspects, may I ask, if your min/max'ing is so good, why you still have such low stats with such gear ?

Below, I'll redirect you to my first post on this topic and you can check by yourself what I'm talking about. With your suggestions, most of my build would be a mess. From strenght issues, to fully capped resistance issues and DPS and probably even less ES. To be honest, if this is all going down for just Temporal Chains map mod, I'd happily spent one extra chaos per map to roll it away, period.

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Checkmeit wrote:
Hello Invalesco and peeps!

Aight, so I started this game two months into Prophecy League, played full Essence and skipped the whole Breach League. I have created about 5~6 different characters and I gotta say, this has been by far my most favorite one! Having said that, I figured its time for me to finally use my min/max'ing experience out of many years of online gaming, on this build! I'll proudly present how far I've come as we speak.

Gear below:





Stats below:
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Hideout GMP DPS (Wrath + Golem)



GMP DPS buffed (7 frenzy + 3 charges)



GMP DPS 100% buffed (7 frenzy + 3 charges + flasks)



Slower Proj Hideout DPS



Slower Proj 100% buffed



Resists and Energy Shield



I'm really proud of how this build came together! Hardest part which took me a few days, was actually getting my resists exactly as I wanted them (OCD issues) for this amazing flask to work properly. After a few different pieces of gear and MANY divine/blessed orbs, finally I have reduced damage taken to both fire and cold and 20% penetration to lightning damage.

Up until level ~90, my build was Non-crit HoWA with Elemental Overload and while it was indeed a strong build, I wanted something even better. I gotta say, your guide did not dissapoint me! I was lucky enough to pick up my amulet which was the enabling piece for me to go Crit build. Sadly, it has no All Attributes suffix and I faced some issues with missing Strenght for some gems, so I had to sacrifice a suffix on my belt in order to get it. Kinda made my min/max'ing harder for other pieces too.

I am literally facerollin' with ease thru anything I can come up with. Be T15/16's with sextanks + 8 mods of any kind, Uber Atziri/Lab, Shaper etc. The only mods I do not bother with are Elemental reflect and Cannot leech life/mana from monsters.

I do have a question tho. What would you think is the best "defensive" flask to replace my humble Basalt ? I was thinking of some near-perfect Rumi's Concoction Granite Flask legacy version. Maybe Taste of Hate legacy ? Not quite sure.

Kudos to you, sir, I am enjoying this experience so far! Well done.


So anyway, I have now upgraded most of my important gems to lvl21 - currently sitting @ 95k GMP DPS (Hideout). Fully buffed should be around 250k with GMP and 360k with Slower Proj.

To add something else, to anyone else whos gear is almost maxed, try and go the extra mile and pick yourself a decent Culling Strike HoWA. I cannot believe how amazing this corruption is.



I picked this up when I was lvl97 & 50% so I couldnt really test it in fear of screwing up days of exp, but oh boy, after hitting 98 I finally tried it at Shaper. Literally the fastest runs I've ever done. About 3~4 minutes from start to finish, depending on the first 4 minibosses and the after-phase layout runback. While mapping, you one shot everything anyway but I also liked its use in Breaches. Mini-bosses die faster, aswell as the random boss spawn. More splinters, more loot, more profit. Totally worth it.

@OP, well once again, thanks for this amazing guide! I heard your suggestion and upgraded my Basalt to this.



I gotta say, its a beast of a flask. Mapping feels much safer, especially if you're aiming to hit 100. Speaking of which, I was playing around with Path of Building, brainwashing myself and found a way to alter the build abit ONLY after hitting lvl100.

So my theory is, at Raiders starting nodes, you do not pick the Projectile damage (and the one with attack speed) ones, instead you go thru the DEX nodes (which are also getting affected by your Fertile Mind). By doing that, at level 100 you should have 4 "free" points. So, you switch your Cruel and Merciless bandits (atk speed & +1 frenzy) for 2 more points and you have just enough to pick Primeval Force! According to Path of Building, the DPS are getting a significant upgrade! I'll post my PoB full build below and if you feel like it, check it out and let me know what you think.

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Hi, I followed ZiggyD guide on youtube for HoWa but it seems similar to this as the noncrit version.

I'm just wondering what to improve for my gear next and how to improve my damage after seeing such high numbers in their H/O. I'm at 9.5k ES and only like 19k DPS it seems in H/O with my golem and wrath up.


I have about 5-6ex total right now. Is getting uber lab and a 6link going to increase my dps exponentially? Or is it my skill tree/ non crit build holding me back? Please and thanks for the help homies.




how do i only have 12k damage in HO? I'm not sure what to do. My ST damage was pretty good but when I switched the entire build over to BF my dps is nowhere near the other posters in this thread.

Any ideas? Thanks.
Hi, I face serious mana problems while leveling right now. I use Elreaon AMu + 1x Ring and still get OOM really fast.




Any idea?

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