[2.6] CRIT HoWA BF/ST Raider [13k ES, 60k BF/265k GMP ST DPS, Stun-immune] [4 sec Chayula kill]

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energy_stress_tensor wrote:
whoops wrong version in the post before this ist the final
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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBAAAGAQkDHgW1DPINjQ5ID6sPxBEvEVARlhXXFfYV_Ra_FyYZihnXGo0dTx2DH0Ei6iPTJIsknST9KgsqOCsKLL8tHzBbNbk31Dt8PL4-z0HQRwZMs04qUUdSKVXgVmNYWlsmW69d8l9qX3BiWmJ5bAhtGW8nb1dwUngZeoR_xn_7g22ExYauidOMNo2Bjb-P-pKAkyeTkJUglwaaF5pqm7WhL6KjpcunK6yXrTOv67TFuMq42b3mvorBoMHFwfPC7MM6xKLN6tAf0K3Q0NN-2NXb591I35jnVOd05-ro1usU7BjtP-4O73rv6_GK-TP8xf_e

This is an interesting approach.

But with Kaom's Roots, you lose 4 gem slots; are you forgoing power charges (obviously not important for map clearing, but on bosses, power charges are nice)?
Last edited by hankinsohl#1231 on Apr 7, 2017, 2:00:25 AM
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exec85 wrote:
Hi, I face serious mana problems while leveling right now. I use Elreaon AMu + 1x Ring and still get OOM really fast.




Any idea?


Try a Thiefs Torment ring? 30 mana on hit is pretty good
Last edited by Roffy19#2512 on Apr 7, 2017, 2:28:23 AM
has anyone tried Chayula Domain`s with BF? I tried but time went out!! :`( (i just pick some maps...so i spent time...), maybe because of AoE BF nerf? Maybe would be a good idea taking AMPLIFY?

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Last edited by redix27#0903 on Apr 7, 2017, 3:13:21 AM
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Completed 34 ChallengesCheckmeit wrote
Hey! I've stumbled upon your suggestion/argument versus OP's build.

While I can give you 10 reasons why in my opinion, Kaoms Roots are garbage (compared to a good pair of ES boots) and generally, why OP's build works far better in many aspects, may I ask, if your min/max'ing is so good, why you still have such low stats with such gear ?

Below, I'll redirect you to my first post on this topic and you can check by yourself what I'm talking about. With your suggestions, most of my build would be a mess. From strenght issues, to fully capped resistance issues and DPS and probably even less ES. To be honest, if this is all going down for just Temporal Chains map mod, I'd happily spent one extra chaos per map to roll it away, period.


after playing around with path of building for a bit i managed to get to 295 k calculated dps compared to your calculated 299 dps and 11.5 k ES and 12k of your ES, while having 137 total overcapped res compared to your overcapped res 126

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so my version is definetly better unless you have godlike boots, and becomes comparable with boots worth about 10 ex +

so unless you insist that you definetly need those 4 extra sockets kaoms roots version is definetly at least as viable an option as US version and also definetly better if you are on a budget
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Roffy19 wrote:
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exec85 wrote:
Hi, I face serious mana problems while leveling right now. I use Elreaon AMu + 1x Ring and still get OOM really fast.




Any idea?


Try a Thiefs Torment ring? 30 mana on hit is pretty good

TT is a good idea... personally, I just went whole hog on reduced mana cost - 2 rings and an amulet at -7 or -8 each. Later I dropped one of the jewelry pieces and ran clarity.
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RedStark wrote:
So i decided to return in the good old howa ... have 50kdps in hideout with wrath and golem

than i remember the screenshot from here reached 106k with only gmp

thats DOUBLE DPS how the F?

my gear
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where did i failed to lose 50k ? and in the screenshot we can see herald of thunder ... is there a new passive or something?


So i did some changes in gear and passive tree, i reach 64k dps with gmp , can reach more with a better jewell and 13k+ if i use elemental focus ... still can't reach the 11k ES (10k i have) and 106k dps ....

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oh i also vaaled those

the currency is worth or the curse is worth?
Last edited by RedStark#3273 on Apr 7, 2017, 4:37:55 AM
after changing 3 nodes for more effective ones i reach 306 k dps with your gear

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turns out the only disadvantage of kaoms roots version is the lack of sockets which arent that necessary anyway

but hey give me 10 reasons why it is "garbage" and why OP version works FAR better ( if better at all)
a quick comparison between Checkmeits Build with US with 280 ES, 45 colr res, 46 lres, 30 int Boots (how much probably around 20+ ex?) against +1 frenzy kaoms for a few C (using path of building Calculations):

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breakdown: -400 ES ; + 10. 8 K dps

all that with boots worth almost nothing oh and also a little bit of extra overcapped res and ability to ignore TC all for 20 ex worth less of gear

but hey such garbage compared to US and 10 reasonst why its worse right
Last edited by energy_stress_tensor#2097 on Apr 7, 2017, 6:48:58 AM
@energy_stress_tensor
As I've stated above, your approach to this build is interesting.

I think some posters may not fully appreciate what your're doing because your build variant is part of a package - it's not just the tree and the fact that you're wearing Kaom's Roots - you're also wearing different gloves and have taken resists on many of your jewels to make up for missing resist stats on the gloves/boots.

In the end, you may well have come up with a cheaper way to gear in order to obtain similar ES/DPS.
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One thing that's not clear in this discussion, is when you compare the DPS that your build variant provides to the DPS which would be obtained using the OP's build, did you include the effect of power charges for OP's build?

I think this is appropriate to do in a fair comparison because neither build variant is going to struggle clearing maps - boss DPS should be the DPS measuring stick.
Last edited by hankinsohl#1231 on Apr 7, 2017, 7:13:53 AM

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